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tyrael07
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Hi,

Sorry I didn't really know what to put on the search index as keyword.

Could you guys tell me what kind of coins should I have to begin with? I read on other forum,i`ll need US coins e.g.:quarters,half dollars, etc...
how many types of coins? etc

since i`m in canada, is it gonna have a big difference if I use canadian coins?

thanks in advance
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broothal
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Coin magic can be done with any coin. Purists likes the 1964 Kennedy half dollar because of the high contents of silver. I still use them when I practice, but I perform using the currencty of whatever country I'm in.

/Christian
Jonathan Townsend
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Some folks insist on starting with Bobo's Modern Coin Magic.

Others might suggest the Downs book, the Robert-Houdin book and perhaps Greater Magic.

The coins you use... will be money or not depending on your tastes. How the coins sit in your hands depends on the size of your hands. The coins are what they are. Using foreign or special coins tends to take the magic out of ordinary context and into 'clever'. It's all about what you want for your magic.

I suggest learning the basics and treating the gaffs as toys for your own amusement.

As to how many etc, usually just the change in your pocket will suffice for informal magic. When you find the material you want to perform at shows... those routines will have their own requirements.
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tyrael07
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So it doesn't matter on whether I start off using a 50c to practice compared to 25 or $1?
Since they differ in size..

What's with the high contents of silver?
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Jonathan Townsend
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American coinage went from silver to NOT back in 1965. That generation of coinmen had to make a choice, between pretty coins and money. Some chose to go with the pretty coins and invested in the older and silver coins. There is another reason for using the older coins. You can get them in well worn, slick or 'soft' condition which are appropriate for some coin routines invented in the early 1900s.
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tommy ng
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Some coin trick use the soft coin(old coin) better,because they slick and the sounds.
For beginner, Bobo's Modern Coin Magic(book) is good for you. if Dvd Michael Ammar and David Roth also is a good start.
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Imho the best thing/book to start with is Bobo's Modern Coin Magic (which is a must have anyways). If you can find it and have the cash get the hardcover version which is called The New Modern Coin Magic, as it contains more material. Bobo alone (even the softback) should keep you busy for a long time. You can supplement that with a DVD (much better than VHS as you can select the scenes) if you want a more visual way of learning, rather than working it all out yourself with just the book and a mirror. Best value for money is Ammar's DVD, if you're feeling rich get Roth's first DVD and once you mastered that get the 2nd etc. You can get nice reviews of these on http://www.coinvanish.com
If you really just started and want to see if you like it, get Bobo and any coins and try it out. If you're serious about it get the hardcover Bobo and a DVD.

As far as items go... a mirror is a must, but I guess you'll have one at home anyways ;-) It doesn't matter what coins you use, however for most sleights bigger coins are easier to manipulate although of course it all depends on the size of your hands. It's commonly conceived that half dollar size coins are best (same size as eg old english penny) although some people prefer dollar size coins. I think for starting half dollars are better. Apart from the ease of manipulation larger coins are also easier to see for the audience, especially if they are a little further away. Also the larger the coin the more impossible it will seem that you can make it vanish/appear/conceal in your hand. The deal with silver (half) dollars is that real silver just looks that bit shinier than newer coins, and that they sound nicer. You can also get 'soft' silver coins (ie they're not as noisy/frictional when you slide them against each other) more easily. If you're just starting out then there's no point in buying expensive coins, you might drop and indent them anyways ;-) just get any odd silverish coin that fits your hand size-wise (a new half dollar would be a good start) and if that works really well for you you can still get real silver ones later.

Lastly, if you insist on getting any props, a classic Okito box and a C/S coin would be a start, but even without any you can still do a lot of stuff.

Good luck.

Oh one more thing - although US halves are probably best to manipulate you'll have to decide at some point if you want to use those or if you want to stick to your local currency. There are tons of threads on this forum about that already, just use the search function. Most people find that given the right introduction noone will care if you use foreign coins or not.

Lastly, for 99% of all routines you will need at most 5 coins.
Rob Elliott
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Believe it or not, you actually have an advantage living in Canada, because the general public actually USES your larger coins. Coin magic is more impressive when it can be done with borrowed money and, let's face it -- here in the USA, we can't walk up to someone and ask for a half dollar. Even our gold Sacagawea dollars are more novelty than currency. Your loonie and toonie coins are perfect for impromptu coin magic.
tyrael07
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Ok thank you all for the help Smile
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Just FYI,
There's another reason some of us prefer silver coins. To some of they do seem as "slippery" as the newer clad coins. That's why I use them. I have terribly dry hands.
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