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Bill08
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It might be for legal reasons that they couldn't use real money, as they would have to destroy currency
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You can do that legally , with a name like Bill I thought you would know that ? I burn a real note in every set I do and I did the Police AGM last year and I never got nicked 😂 Gaz 😊
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Really surprised that people are nitpicking over the fact that prop money was used in the provided example (ok, not really surprised, its the Cafť...). The provided example I imagine was constructed with prop money instead of actual currency to save on production cost. Due to the nature of the prepped bill, 3 bills are needed. 3 prop bills cost less then 3 actual bills.

Personally, I don't mind that the provided example uses prop money, as I don't mind constructing the needed gimmick in the currency of my choice. Also overtime the gimmick is going to need to be refreshed anyways.
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Itís not nitpicking

The currency is obviously fake.

For the price of 40 dollars they should have included in the description that it was fake currency. Or just charged a dollar or three more if they had to so we wouldnít have to remake this right out of the package.

Wonder why they didnít?

Oh I think I know less people would have bought it,

I used to have a magic shop and I can tell you that if I had to demo this in person it would not fly off the shelves for 40 dollars like it will for Penguin.

I love his magic and itís worth something for his creativity but I wish I hadnít bought this.

I never come on here and complain but for me this is the purchase I regret most this year. Not because itís a bad effect but for the price point and for me anyway that I wonít be able to use it as it is.

I had given it a 3 out of 5 but the more I look at this and consider what it cost to produce I give it a 2.5.

Sorry you donít have to agree we all are entitled to our opinions.

Iíve been buying magic for 30 years and while I donít have the creative mind of a Nicholas Lawrence I do know that in its present form itís not worth what it cost to me.
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On Nov 30, 2020, Marvelous wrote:
Itís not nitpicking

The currency is obviously fake.

For the price of 40 dollars they should have included in the description that it was fake currency. Or just charged a dollar or three more if they had to so we wouldnít have to remake this right out of the package.

Wonder why they didnít?

Oh I think I know less people would have bought it,

I used to have a magic shop and I can tell you that if I had to demo this in person it would not fly off the shelves for 40 dollars like it will for Penguin.

I love his magic and itís worth something for his creativity but I wish I hadnít bought this.

I never come on here and complain but for me this is the purchase I regret most this year. Not because itís a bad effect but for the price point and for me anyway that I wonít be able to use it as it is.

I had given it a 3 out of 5 but the more I look at this and consider what it cost to produce I give it a 2.5.

Sorry you donít have to agree we all are entitled to our opinions.

Iíve been buying magic for 30 years and while I donít have the creative mind of a Nicholas Lawrence I do know that in its present form itís not worth what it cost to me.



Harsh man,. Clearly youíre upset about the prop money but to be honest, youíre one of the few whoís so upset that they are giving it a 2.5 ... I get it your upset but itís NOT the end of the world, you paid $40... the average price for a handmade magic prop of this size ect.. I understand they could have made this in real currency but something to consider is it takes 3 bills minimum per unit, then when there are errors in the manufacturing process which there will be it the turns 3 bills into possible 4+ ..... another issue is the lack of consistency with real US bills, theyíre worse than bicycle playing cards when it comes to the borders.. because of this issue penguin would end up with numerous real bills cut in half and having to be taped back together just to deposit hundred of cut in half bills to the bank (which nobody should have to deal with) these bills are cut and canít be used and it would be extremely difficult to match thousands of bills... that also adds to labor time, this is all considered when manufacturing a couple thousand units..

Iím gonna say this, the gimmick provided is not useless.. even to you, youíre just mad.. I get it. At the very least you have learned a secret that fooled you, also you have purchased a template to make your own with US bills.. Also, if you consider giving my counterfeit presentation with the prop bill a shot you might like that better! Who knows until you step out of your comfort zone and try something new.. I appreciate your support but loosen up man. Itís really NOT a big deal like youíre making it out to be..
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The prop bill is not ideal. I can't see anybody calling attention to it as a fake as part of their presentation. In a perfect world, it would come from Penguin made with real bills. But barring that, the package should come with a set of supplies to make up another set, as Blade does.
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Really George Iglesias twister magic always has the prop constructed with a real dollar bill, dollar to credit card dollar to gum etc ... it's not illegal! That is exactly why for 40.00 I did not buy this (Always wait for reviwes on the Cafť at least two weeks) I like Deposit by Marcus Eddie download is 9.95 it fits the bill peffect "No pun Intended"
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Https://youtu.be/7lXERqZJCbQ this works fine for me !
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There should be no need for a counterfeit presentation ! That's A Cop Out "Torn & restored bill real bill rip it & restore it DONE" looks like In The Demo Video A Real Bill"
Just my opinion here ..
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There should be no need for a counterfeit presentation ! That's A Cop Out "Torn & restored bill real bill rip it & restore it DONE" looks like In The Demo Video A Real Bill"
Just my opinion here ..


You know what they say about opinions? We all have one... Nothing against Marcus and his effect but thereís a reason itís only $10.. I was actually on the shoot when filming his effect and actually added to download and improved the method, Marcus is a big fan of Revamp. A skilled creator/magician could tell you the difference between the 2! Like the old saying goes... you get what you pay for! Youíre upset it didnít come with a real bill? I was slightly.. but Iím over it and look at the bright side, youíre still given a template for a revolutionary method, something you can make at home yourself easily.. I learned an important lesson years ago, You canít please everyone! Iím not loosing any sleep.. thereís hundreds of people extremely excited to perform Revamp as is and many more who have No issues with making their own out of whatever currency you have..

Shameless plug: I sell magnets & Tyvek receipts on my website designed specifically for Revamp DIY 😉

Just another option...
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Shameless plug: I sell magnets & Tyvek receipts on my website designed specifically for Revamp DIY 😉

Just another option...


The first page your comment "removed effortlessly with nothing sticky ect utilizing my signature dismount". Do these receipts use the same? hahah
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Shameless plug: I sell magnets & Tyvek receipts on my website designed specifically for Revamp DIY 😉

Just another option...


The first page your comment "removed effortlessly with nothing sticky ect utilizing my signature dismount". Do these receipts use the same? hahah


Itís the exact same effect, concept ect.. these receipts are just another option for aesthetics. I sell the magnets and receipts as separate products on my site.
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It does look good but living outside the US and having had a bad customer experience with Nicholas in the past it will also be a pass for me. All the best for the release though! Will stay tuned in case it gets made in GBP/EUR and distributed in Europe (also not a fan of fake currency, people will tell and then the trick is over, it will scream gimmick to them), again it looks great well done!
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What came first? The egg or the chicken? Revamp or Reborn? https://youtu.be/ynJXucSyp9M
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Seth Race here from P3!

Just wanted to chime in and say a few things, Nicholas is correct by stating ďsomething to consider is it takes 3 bills minimum per unit, then when there are errors in the manufacturing process which there will be it the turns 3 bills into possible 4+ ..... another issue is the lack of consistency with real US bills, theyíre worse than bicycle playing cards when it comes to the borders..Ē Artwork needs to line up for things to look good in performance, and on US currency when the bills are minted the borders are slightly skewed from note to note.

Another important factor is exchange rates, just because we have a $1 note in America, other countries donít have such a small bill. So ď$1 dollar extra to make the gimmickĒ as some have mentioned doesnít apply to those in the UK, it actually would take £15-£30 to make 1 unit depending on what the smallest note is, either a £5 or £10. Now that is just one foreign currency, how many more would have to be offered? This is another reason for the inclusion of prop money.


Many other great effects have been released using fake money such as E=MC2 by Nemo and Hanson Chien, Paperheart by Patrick Kun, Split by Yves Doumergue, Gregory Wilsonís Foreign Affair, Stacked by Chris Dearman and Uday, Flash Cash by Alan Wong, etc. Some use fake paper prop money, and some use Tyvek or P-Tex. These factors donít take away from the magic or performance. Those effects still look great and many have great reviews.

The method for Revamp makes it look like real life magic, it doesn't matter what youíre tearing. I think for $40, what you receive is great for you to perform with whether itís on Social Media or in person(post-covid). It also allows you to practice this effect immediately right out of the box without DIY first, so that is definitely something to consider as well.
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What came first? The egg or the chicken? Revamp or Reborn? https://youtu.be/ynJXucSyp9M


Good question and a great opportunity to highlight the theft of my effects Titan & Revamp.. itís the same exact concept and main construction of my effect Titan.
I published Titan in 2018 also taught in my 2.5 Penguin Lecture in 2017. Interestingly enough Reborn released 1 day after Revamp... how convenient..

I was the first to publish this concept and not that it matters but also probably the girder to invent this concept, I have videos from 2014 on my Instagram alone.. not to mention videos that predate that on my YouTube.

TOMS should be respectful and remove Reborn.. unfortunately they wonít respond to my emails or DM..

The reason they wonít ever respond is because I believe they are a shell for Sansminds.. whom changed its name to TOMS so now thereís not actual Person to blame for theft ect..
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Totally agree with N.L. on this one, TOMS is definitely a shell for Sansmind. It's totally apparent, to me anyway.
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Totally agree with N.L. on this one, TOMS is definitely a shell for Sansmind. It's totally apparent, to me anyway.


It definitely is apparent. Same people in the trailers, same products, same creators and unoriginal products. I hope they take it down because it looks identical to this and they (sansminds) has a history of ripping him and other people off.
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A friendly reminder if anyone is looking to make their own Revamp I have magnets & Tyvek receipts available on my website. A receipt is a great organic option for Revamp, Iíll also be stocking Mini 7-eleven Receipts soon, these mini receipts make the effect slightly more visual and easier to manage for people with smaller hands as well.
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When the world comes back I will print my info on fake 100ís, use those for the trick and hand them out.
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