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Iíve had mine since Monday and only today re-made the gimmick with a genuine bill. It took 40 minutes. Hardest part was separating the magnets from the tape and making sure they were properly oriented. The illusion works so much better with a real bill. I havenít shown it to many people yet as Iím still practicing. But the few who have seen it were shocked at the flash restoration.

Highly recommended

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On Dec 3, 2020, aposjf12 wrote:
Iíve had mine since Monday and only today re-made the gimmick with a genuine bill. It took 40 minutes. Hardest part was separating the magnets from the tape and making sure they were properly oriented. The illusion works so much better with a real bill. I havenít shown it to many people yet as Iím still practicing. But the few who have seen it were shocked at the flash restoration.

Highly recommended

Richard
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Good to hear youíre enjoying Revamp! Customizing your own Revamp can take 15-45 minutes for some, Iím glad you were able to make your own and have had great success with it so far!

For anyone Not interested in making your own gimmicks, I have Stock of (REVAMP: USD & REVAMP:RECEIPT) on my website..
The receipts are made of Durable Tyvek and the USD version is constructed out of Real US Currency.

Message Me for details..
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On Dec 4, 2020, NicholasLawrenceMagic wrote:
For anyone Not interested in making your own gimmicks, I have Stock of (REVAMP: USD...


Well this just went from frustrating to insulting. I'm glad to see that a USD version is available, and that it is available for the same price as the prop-money version. But as an "early adopter," I'm now left with something that I never in a million years would have bought, faced with the options that purchasers now have. The prop-money version just makes no sense. It's not good enough of a fake to hand out (unless you want to use a presentation that undermines the organic nature of a dollar bill), and the idea that the supplied gimmick is just a template to make your own is negated by the fact that there were no extra magnets included in the package. I'm left with something that I simply don't want to perform with, and that it's going to be a real hassle to reconstruct (I don't even know what thickness of magnets would be best). Nicholas, you have alluded to the fact that some of these calls were Penguin's, and I am afraid that whatever arrangement you made with them is going to damage your well-deserved reputation for creating and selling practical, clever, and beautifully-constructed gimmicks. This is a great effect and a solid method, but I can't imagine anybody not being a bit disappointed with the prop.

I know this might sound a little over the top, but I am just kicking myself for buying when I did. If I had known that I could have waited a week or so and gotten a better version of this terrific effect...

It looks like Penguin isn't selling the USD version (yet?), and you are only selling the USD version. I wonder, in the absence of Penguin's marketing machine, which one would sell more. I have a pretty good guess.

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It took me over and hour and a half to re make this with real money and it still doesnít function like it should but the fake currency it came with for me was unusable.

The bill I received even had a misalignment from the start I had to correct. So much for quality control at Penguin. Yet the reviews are all 5 stars.

Just to put that in perspective I was able to put together his effect Evolve with no problems and now they make Revolve.

I also assembled a Head Rush illusion from Peter Loughran and it functioned like it should at least when I ordered it I knew I was going to have to do arts and crafts to an extent.

I will try it with his receipts and magnets he sells on his site and give that a honest review.

Though I am worried as I hate buying from creators directly as they sometimes are slow to ship and fulfill orders especially since a couple people on here said Nicholas didnít do right on their orders.

Hopefully my experience will be like buying from David Regal who always makes sure to get your items out and communicate with you and not like with Cosmo or Sankey or David Forrest or Justin Miller just to name a few who took my money and either never sent or replied to my messages.

Nicholas is a creative thinker and if these were all made correctly aligned and with real currency it would be a contender for trick of the year

I hope I will receive the receipts and magnets and will be fair in my review if I do.
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Makes No sense you pay 40.00 for this trick then you have to spend more money on his website to fix the trick right . The Blurb should have stated " Fake Bill supplied "
In the demo video to sell the trick looks like a real bill is used hmmmm......
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I know itís ridiculous , just sell the effect made properly and people will pay the right money for it . Otherwise state itís made with fake comic money as a prototype so you can make your own . Especially when you are selling the correct stuff to make the gimmick on your site , it makes no sense unless you state it clearly and then include what you need to make your own without destroying the play comic money it comes with ( that may even be misaligned ) . Nicholas is a great creator , but jeez the best creators seem to be some of the worst businessman or at least have the least business sense and customer service imho Gaz 😊
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It continues to amaze me that magicians still, still fall for Penguins absolute BS. They know they can get away with it and will continue to do so until you all get a grip and stop buying from them. Only then will they, maybe, change their tactics and stop taking you for fools.
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I ordered this though I haven't received it yet. I agree that Penguin should have mentioned in the ad copy that the provided gimmick is made from a fake bill and that a template is included to make one with a real bill. They should revise it on the website now.

BTW, I can not complain myself as I ordered mine after reading all the complaints here. I just figured I'll practice with the fake and make one from a real bill for performing. Smile

Thanks!

Jim
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In the second video, they show the gimmick and thatís where I was ďwait a minute, that dollar looks offĒ...
I do understand Penguins point regarding production....
Probably the best would have been to offer 2 versions: the gimmicked fake bill or a playing card. That way people could have chosen and more sales I think.
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I ordered Revamp from Penguin the evening before last and the next morning I got the email from Nicholas that heís now selling the effect made with real currency if purchased directly from him on his website. Kind of frustrating. I agree with Gaz that often the best magic creators make terrible business people. As evidenced by the fact that Nicholas decided to charge the same price for the real currency version. Iím sure he thinks that he is doing purchasers a favor by doing so but in reality it comes across as a further slap in the face to those early adopters. A more experienced businessperson would have been able to anticipate that.

But Iím not too upset about it because I do understand the difficulty of producing these on a mass scale with real currency and dealing with all the variations of different bills. Besides, I usually end up making my own gaffs anyway whenever I can because Iím an ultra picky SOB and anyone cranking out dozens of these gaffs is just not going to have the time or patience to make one in the way I will when making my own.

But Nicholas is a good guy and heís super smart and I know he is learning from his mistakes. This is a great routine and gaff so I thank Nicholas for his dedication to creativity. Iím happy he released it and happy I bought it. You can learn business acumen but you canít learn to be creative and talented in the way that Nicholas is.
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Maybe he will offer a deal to buy the real dollar bill if you already own the fake bill by showing proof!!!!
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Hey guys! Let me start off by apologizing for offering Revamp USD as a Physical product, for whoever was affected... Penguin believes they were or would be heavily affected by this, they quickly contacted me and had me remove it from my online store immediately.

Even Now Iím honesty confused why it was an issue, When comparing the traffic of a multi million dollar magic company like PenguinMagic to my small Shopify store it seems silly to think that they would have an issue with me offering a Custom Revamp option... especially because I felt I was doing everything in the most honest and transparent way possible, though it goes against mine and most contractual agreements, vaguely justified...I purchased my own Revamp units and simply decided I could replace the units with USD gimmicks and sell them at the same price. I didnít think it would have cause an issue, I wanted to offer this to at least some of the buyers who support me directly knowing I couldnít serve the entire community something I was 100% proud of...

This idea all stemmed from Me truly Not being happy with the Prop Bills used for Revamp.. I was NOT told about the decision to use prop bills until they were well into production and most of the gimmicks were already built. I was upset, I felt left out of important details which I think we can agree is a crucial element to this project, I knew this was going to be an issue for some but tried to make the best out of the situation at hand..

If I had of Known or was involved I would have come up with a solution to offer Penguin so they could have produced a better product to match the wonderful design of this gimmick, which Iím still so incredibly proud of. If I was involved and was told they didnít want to manufacture using real bills I would have offered my Tyvek Receipt design instead, while also teaching how to make your own with any bill/note ect..

As most of you know I am a magic creator but iím also a consultant.. What does that mean?! Not only do I consult for TV shows or Live shows but I can offer help to ANYBODY who needs it, including customized magic youíve purchased and prefer a different style or replacement. I have listed on my website a ďConsultingĒ link in the menu.. this makes it easy for anyone who wants anything made custom for them to reach out and Iíll do my best to make sure youíre needs are met. This is a legal and private loophole that allows me to serve my patrons in the best way possible.

I feel better talking about my experience and explaining it those who will read this, Iím Not perfect.. Iím doing my best and simply trying to make a career out of something I love more than anything in life..Creating Magic
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Nicholas I appreciate your response.

I hope something can be worked out with Penguin.

I wish they would at the very least allow you to sell the receipts and magnets as an add on directly through Penguin if they see we purchased Revamp from them.

I honestly would feel better about Penguin at this point if they would allow you to sell them on their site.

I said if mine had arrived properly aligned and with real currency it could be trick of the year.

As it stands I look forward to buying the receipts and magnets and giving it a try.

I wish you the best and hopefully Penguin will find a way to make this great effect even better by carrying your receipts and magnets on their site and explain in the description that you received a fake bill with the effect.
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Nicholas I appreciate your response.

I hope something can be worked out with Penguin.

I wish they would at the very least allow you to sell the receipts and magnets as an add on directly through Penguin if they see we purchased Revamp from them.

I honestly would feel better about Penguin at this point if they would allow you to sell them on their site.

I said if mine had arrived properly aligned and with real currency it could be trick of the year.

As it stands I look forward to buying the receipts and magnets and giving it a try.

I wish you the best and hopefully Penguin will find a way to make this great effect even better by carrying your receipts and magnets on their site and explain in the description that you received a fake bill with the effect.


Well put, I appreciate your kindness.. as you mentioned above, my magnets and tyvek receipts are still available and will continue to be available. I plan on figuring out what else I can offer on my website that can potentially add Bonus features or items that expire with my releases, replacement parts ect.. this is more than making money for me. I truly want to contribute great magic and I also want to serve the community the best way I can.. Iím trying to stand out for more than my visuals you can rely on..
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Very sorry to hear about the above situation with Penguin.
I wish you all the best Nicolas.
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Thatís why when ever possible donít sell your effects or rights to dealers . They will change things once they have bought the rights if they can save a dollar , I have seen many an effect that when you get it you have to re make yourself adding things to make it a lot better . I spoke to the creator of such an effect and he told me that is how I do it , that is the idea they bought but it takes them too long to make it like that so that just add a short card instead of making the real gimmicks etc . Of course it then looks with the creators name on the effect that this was how he created it when infact they have butchered the real cleverness of the overall effect . I would say in over 50% of the effects I buy I remake the gimmick almost immediately , stronger , better and often with some tweaks that you think why didnít they do that in the first place Gaz 😊 ps Great post from Nicholas that explains everything and has massively put me off Penguin
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Nicholas, thanks so much for your openness here. Penguin has really put you in a tough spot.

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Well, I got my unit and could not be more pleased. I had some m*****s on hand and also constructed a gimmick using an actual dollar bill (3 in fact). I like the legit dollar, but I also like the movie money since it feeds into a line of patter that I came up with (the magic of the movies...). I will road test this next week for my patients who are getting a lot of magic from a distance these days. This trick will go down as one of the greats, in my opinion, like Misled and Darryl's Jumping Knot routine. Thank you Nicholas Lawrence. I don't quite understand the naysayers in this particular situation. The trick is mind-blowingly good. Takes a bit of practice to master. All the better. This is my best purchase since Little Door.
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Nicholas is one of the naysers he thinks the production by Penguin stinks Gaz 😊
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On Nov 25, 2020, tophatter wrote:
Is the gimmick delicate ? just want to know if you carry it in your wallet will it hold up well.


I disagree with others who say it will hold up well in a wallet. I have a regular size wallet, and everything that I leave in my wallet starts taking on a curved shape. This gimmick would not do well in that situation. Also, this wallet uses certain components that personally I wouldn't put in my wallet.
If you use a large wallet, or a wallet that can keep bills flat, then it would work fine. It would be great for those metal wallets.

I purchased this, but I haven't figured out how I am going to carry it. Maybe I'll try it, and if it gets ruined then I'll make a new one.

KJ
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