On Dec 3, 2020, loeld wrote:

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On Dec 3, 2020, cardbiker wrote:
Must admit it’s not one I’ll be counting the hours down for it’s release

Great information! So now we all know that Cardbiker is not going to buy this!

On Dec 3, 2020, loeld wrote:

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On Dec 3, 2020, cardbiker wrote:
Must admit it’s not one I’ll be counting the hours down for it’s release

Great information! So now we all know that Cardbiker is not going to buy this!

On Dec 3, 2020, pegasus wrote:

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On Dec 3, 2020, loeld wrote:

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On Dec 3, 2020, cardbiker wrote:
Must admit it’s not one I’ll be counting the hours down for it’s release

Great information! So now we all know that Cardbiker is not going to buy this!

Cardbiker is a regular and valued member of the Café. Unlike you.

On Dec 3, 2020, Gaz Lawrence wrote:
Ok comparing it to one star sign is a poor example , why ? Simply because everyone knows you only have one star sign and time however is composed of two very important elements hours and minutes . Not only that once you know someone’s sign you can reel off traits about the person before revealing their sign so it’s very valid and very personal to them . I also think you are wrong about the time people were born , I know I was born at 8.20 am on 4th March 1968 , my eldest Daughter was Christmas Day at 12.18 am 1997 and was the first in our borough on that special day and made the local newspaper . My second eldest was 17.48 on Sunday the 20th July 1997 just as Justin Leonard was making the final putt to win the British open and finally my little after thought was born at 2.06 am on the 23rd of August 2018 . So saying people don’t know the time and the hour is nonsense , I agree some forget it completely by if they know one ie the hour then like a clock they go hand in hand and they tend to know the other one . I am not saying it’s a bad effect I don’t know it all but your assumptions about major facts in peoples lives are light years off reality imho Gaz 😊 ps remind me not to book you for an 8.30 pm gig as you will probably turn up and 9pm 😂😂

On Dec 3, 2020, JanForster wrote:
Hm, I am a bit surprised. The previous versions of "Frozen in Time" were very good and received excellent reviews. It is a tool predicting a freely chosen full time hour which offers a lot of applications.

This new version (I got one of the prototypes) is a major step forward. While with the previous versions you could not really let spectators inspect closely the handed out framed photograph, now with this one you can! There is simply nothing to find. And it is far cheaper than the "high tech version" of "Frozen in time" which is not available anymore. Besides the fact that this new version is extremely reliable.

In another place I read some superb ideas by Ted Karmilovich he came up with after receiving one of the few prototypes as well... which I think says a lot. Jan

On Dec 3, 2020, Gaz Lawrence wrote:
It’s right though , it’s a simple as that you can’t answer it . Anyway good luck with the release you will get it right all in good time Gaz 😊

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On Dec 3, 2020, cardbiker wrote:
Must admit it’s not one I’ll be counting the hours down for it’s release

Great information! So now we all know that Cardbiker is not going to buy this!

Cardbiker is a regular and valued member of the Café. Unlike you.

On Dec 3, 2020, loeld wrote:

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On Dec 3, 2020, cardbiker wrote:
Must admit it’s not one I’ll be counting the hours down for it’s release

Great information! So now we all know that Cardbiker is not going to buy this!

Cardbiker is a regular and valued member of the Café. Unlike you.

I just realized that I did not explain why I made my comment to Cardbike. So here it goes: you wrote that Cardbike is a valued member of the Café. Of course I believe you. Do you really believe that it was any real value in his comment?Real value that make it easier for people to decide if they are going to buy this product or not! I don’t think so and that was the reason for my comment! All the best. lp loeld

On Dec 3, 2020, loeld wrote:

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On Dec 3, 2020, Gaz Lawrence wrote:
It’s right though , it’s a simple as that you can’t answer it . Anyway good luck with the release you will get it right all in good time Gaz 😊

Of course I can answer! Some people just tell them their astrological sign and some people, like me and you , tell them more about them selfs. If you do a routine with Frozen in time it is of course possible to reveal more things then the time on the unit. I have a routine involving postcards where it is a prediction ( label) on the back of the unit. You can use this together with Astrostar by Edward Stein. You can use it in a Confabulation routine. To just ask for a time and show them the picture of a clock is not good mentalism. I have to give them more. I am a pro mentalist and I know how to make an effect great and I guess you do to!😄 All the best / lp loeld

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On Dec 3, 2020, cardbiker wrote:
Must admit it’s not one I’ll be counting the hours down for it’s release

Great information! So now we all know that Cardbiker is not going to buy this!

Cardbiker is a regular and valued member of the Café. Unlike you.

I just realized that I did not explain why I made my comment to Cardbike. So here it goes: you wrote that Cardbike is a valued member of the Café. Of course I believe you. Do you really believe that it was any real value in his comment?Real value that make it easier for people to decide if they are going to buy this product or not! I don’t think so and that was the reason for my comment! All the best. lp loeld

Apologies if my post caused offense it was meant to be a joke, counting down the “hours “ weak I know, ah well

On Dec 3, 2020, goldeneye007 wrote:
Ordered mine, for me having the hour is really good enough, I can think of so many ways to create a strong climax using the photograph (and I really hope it's fully examinable!).

I read all the different comments/views with interest and I get (and respect ofc) that some of you will prefer to have the minutes as well (and funnily I'm usually that guy actually!) - but here I kind of feel that it would nearly be an overkill to also have the minutes right. I mean come on 1 in 12 (so ~8% - which sounds stronger I feel) is already REALLY strong! Additionally, the photograph is of an analog clock, so it doesn't shock as much to only focus on the hours.

Anyway, those were just my 2c, I ordered it, good luck with the release!

On Dec 3, 2020, goldeneye007 wrote:
Ordered mine, for me having the hour is really good enough, I can think of so many ways to create a strong climax using the photograph (and I really hope it's fully examinable!).

I read all the different comments/views with interest and I get (and respect ofc) that some of you will prefer to have the minutes as well (and funnily I'm usually that guy actually!) - but here I kind of feel that it would nearly be an overkill to also have the minutes right. I mean come on 1 in 12 (so ~8% - which sounds stronger I feel) is already REALLY strong! Additionally, the photograph is of an analog clock, so it doesn't shock as much to only focus on the hours.

Anyway, those were just my 2c, I ordered it, good luck with the release!

On Dec 3, 2020, goldeneye007 wrote:
Ordered mine, for me having the hour is really good enough, I can think of so many ways to create a strong climax using the photograph (and I really hope it's fully examinable!).

I read all the different comments/views with interest and I get (and respect ofc) that some of you will prefer to have the minutes as well (and funnily I'm usually that guy actually!) - but here I kind of feel that it would nearly be an overkill to also have the minutes right. I mean come on 1 in 12 (so ~8% - which sounds stronger I feel) is already REALLY strong! Additionally, the photograph is of an analog clock, so it doesn't shock as much to only focus on the hours.

Anyway, those were just my 2c, I ordered it, good luck with the release!

On Dec 3, 2020, loeld wrote:

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On Dec 3, 2020, goldeneye007 wrote:
Ordered mine, for me having the hour is really good enough, I can think of so many ways to create a strong climax using the photograph (and I really hope it's fully examinable!).

I read all the different comments/views with interest and I get (and respect ofc) that some of you will prefer to have the minutes as well (and funnily I'm usually that guy actually!) - but here I kind of feel that it would nearly be an overkill to also have the minutes right. I mean come on 1 in 12 (so ~8% - which sounds stronger I feel) is already REALLY strong! Additionally, the photograph is of an analog clock, so it doesn't shock as much to only focus on the hours.

Anyway, those were just my 2c, I ordered it, good luck with the release!

Great! I am just curious how and where you ordered it, because It is not out yet. Hope that you did not ordered the new edition . That was released in 2018. It is not the same.

Maybe one of the dealers have it for preorder ?