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reignofsound
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Mine arrived today and wow this is great.
Be doing over and over in the mirror fooling myself.

Will take some practice to get the finger placements second nature.

Highly recommended this.
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How difficult is it to only let the prediction fall into your hands? As seen in some trailer?
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May be worth mentioning that Dani Daortiz's preferred handling probably lends itself better when performed seated at a table, not that it must be performed that way mind you but I think its easier and looks more natural when picking the box up off a table.

And youíll notice he has the lid already removed, in fact he doesnít appear to use the lid at all. Dani must pick the box up from the table with a finger or fingers going inside of the box prior to the dump.
Since I typically use this in a parlor show setting where I am standing, I like to hold the box up high and display it very clearly with the lid still on it and it makes more sense IMO to remove the card from inside by reaching in with my fingers in that case rather than dumping it out.

So your preferred method may depend in part on the type of performing you do.
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On Dec 29, 2020, videoman wrote:
May be worth mentioning that Dani Daortiz's preferred handling probably lends itself better when performed seated at a table, not that it must be performed that way mind you but I think its easier and looks more natural when picking the box up off a table.

And youíll notice he has the lid already removed, in fact he doesnít appear to use the lid at all. Dani must pick the box up from the table with a finger or fingers going inside of the box prior to the dump.
Since I typically use this in a parlor show setting where I am standing, I like to hold the box up high and display it very clearly with the lid still on it and it makes more sense IMO to remove the card from inside by reaching in with my fingers in that case rather than dumping it out.

So your preferred method may depend in part on the type of performing you do.


Thanks for pointing this out videoman. Hope all is going well my friend! In spite of owning a Clarity Box (which I still love very much), Paragon 3D (which I am not a fan of due the card sticking in the box when you dump it out..I wish I could sell it, but I couldn't in good conscious due to playing with it for a long time to perfect the illusion to no avail..a few M****** broke), and other opaque "boxes" (Mint box which is fragile and Toibox which is brilliant), I wonder how Vision Box 2 will rate against those products.

Also, I wonder how durable this is long term. I am nervous in having to carry a tool to reset.
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On Dec 20, 2020, Gaz Lawrence wrote:
I have version 1.0 and been playing around with it again the last couple of days and itís fantastic . I canít see how 2.0 will be better as itís perfect as it is and it seems to me itís trying to fix something that ainít broken . Itís an incredible illusion and works wonderfully Gaz 😊


Youíre absolutely right.

I am the fool who had v1 and ordered v2 and really, the differences are minimal.
Yes, the box is sturdier.
No, the gimmick is exactly the same.
The gimmick is 100% the same. You can use it in v1 and in v2.
If you have the thin card provided in v2, you can use it in v1.

You can also buy the 3 extra gimmicks for v1 which were available for v1, as there is not a single difference concerning the gimmick.

And the reset can be accomplished with a m****t attached to a long stick.

For the newcomers v2 is great.
For the owners of v1. Nothing new here.
Gaz Lawrence
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Thank you for confirming what I thought Gaz 😊
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I agree. I own both and the differences are minimal at best. No real reason to get v2 if you have v1. Magnetic reset is about it. The more I play with it, the more I like it. But I still wish reset was as quick and easy as the Mystery Box.
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Vision Box 2.0 is without a doubt a much better version of the original first edition

The advantages are obvious and undeniable and the video explains this quite clearly

Gaz Lawrence
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Not from the people who actually have itís not . They are better opinions than a promo of something that they obviously have made to sell . Itís like saying the iPhone XR is a lot different than the iPhone X when basically they are one and the same imo Gaz 😊
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I like the 2.0 better. 1.) the lid fits better than the 1st. 2.) magnetic reset. 3.) my favorite part is can be loaded in front of your spectator.
Gaz Lawrence
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Well thatís money well spent by you Iím pleased you prefer it Gaz 😊
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I am starring at version 1 and version 2 as I'm typing this. If you didn't tell me they were different, I would think they were identical. The lid on version 2 is slightly thicker but other than that, the boxes are identical. I tried the magnetic reset with box 1 and it worked. As for being able to load a full card in front of the spectator, that is because of the cards not the box. So if you have the necessary card, you can use it with version 1 as well. So other than the slight thickness of the lid, the only differences between version one and version two appear to be the accessories that come with the box, not the box itself. If someone wants to buy my version 1, pm me. I've never used it.
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Thank you Eric for confirming once again that if you have version 1.0 you do not need version 2.0 as they work exactly the same .
I value your contributions on these boards as they are always honest and correct .
Best wishes Gaz 😊
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Always happy to help. I canít remember how much version 1 cost but I think version 2 is $15-20 more. You do get a magnetic reset tool and 3 cards (blue, red, blank) with version 2.
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On Dec 18, 2020, Illucifer wrote:
I have to say, Iím not impressed. The removal of the card is very unnatural looking; the placement of the fingers and the sudden, snappy motion of jerking the card from the box looks odd. Tommy Wonderís card box is so much more natural and mysterious. Or, I think a simple paper clip switch (a la Jay Sankey) is much better. I understand if someone wants the aesthetic of a clear box for their routine, but the actions just really stand out as unnatural, in my opinion.


Totally agree with this. Use Sankey's Paperclipped and put it under an inverted wineglass. Same trick, better/easier handling IMO.


Just chiming in as someone who has 2.0 only, I wish the the removal did look more natural (and I guess the original must be the same). Also, placing the fingers in the box in that manner and then snapping the fingers out of the box results in two audible clicks, the first louder than the second. The box does look high quality, and I'm enjoying it as a contraption.

The most natural way would be not to use a box, like The Switch by Shim Lim, but this method is difficult.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df1GHW60tuw

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The removal will take practice but gets more natural with time. You definitely donít need to yank it out of the box in a fast/jerky motion like in the demo. It can be done more slowly and smoothly and the sound is pretty much covered by the real card snapping off the box as you remove it.
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On Jan 5, 2021, ocb wrote:
The most natural way would be not to use a box,
like The Switch by Shim Lim, but this method is difficult
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df1GHW60tuw[/quote]

This would of course be the ultimate method, but must require some hard practice and skill
PhantomStranger
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Is there anything like this but does it with a coin? A super fast switch in the open like that self working?
Gaz Lawrence
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What getting a signed coin to appear in a clear box that has the same denomination coin in there already ? Gaz 😊
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On Jan 6, 2021, Gaz Lawrence wrote:
What getting a signed coin to appear in a clear box that has the same denomination coin in there already ? Gaz 😊


doesn't have to be signed. if you had two coins that basically look the same, but maybe the writing on one was slightly different when closely examined, something to switch them in the open like that. Just curious
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