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griz326 Regular user Eureka, Montana 129 Posts |
Until now I've only use regular(Johnson) Okito boxes. I've been toying with a slot box. I've never had a routine that "required" a Boston box, but can see where that could come in handy.
Is there any reason that a Boston box can't replace a standard Okito box? Does it change the weighting of the box? Is there any reason a slot box can't be used for any of the common routines? 3 coins vs 4 or 5 coins? Accommodate shells or not? If there are other features I should consider that are not well-known, send me a private message. (One box maker said he has a feature that no one else has...) I'm about to buy a custom box and hope to avoid buyer's remorse. Guidance is appreciated. |
Scott Horn Elite user Dallas, TX 417 Posts |
Any routine you do with an Okito, you can do with a Boston or Slot
A Boston does have a visible difference than an Okito on the outside, so using it depends on your routines. You can somewhat overcome this with a JG Thompson coin A Slot looks identical on the outside, but requires very minor handling adjustments Most boxes that I am familiar with accommodate 4 coins, but this should be driven by the routines you want to perform The Magna Coin Box has a couple of additional, somewhat unique features |
griz326 Regular user Eureka, Montana 129 Posts |
Thank you. I pretty much know the features/functions of most Okito box variants. Understanding the corner I'm painting myself into by choosing this box vs that box is what I'm hoping to learn.
I read reviews for a few boxes today and ran across the line "best on the market" several times. I just shake my head. An Okito box is just rolled brass turned on a lathe. Presuming basic skill of the guy on the machine, there's not much to it until you add magic knowledge and a love of beautiful things. I've looked at a number of "more than just machinist" offerings. I'll go with one of them but need to know what to ask for.... |
Magical Moments Veteran user 338 Posts |
There actually are differences from one manufacturer to another. Sometimes those differences are subtle so has to be handled a bit to determine what details you like best. Of course, whatever boxes you are used to become your favorite until you find and try another and think you found details which suit your style.
So, it is best to try a few different styles of boxes and see what you like best and why. Boxes vary in a variety of ways such as size, weight, type of metal, type of lid and how it fits over the box. In addition, one must decide which type of box will suit your needs to accomplish a preferred routine. Finding the right coin box for you is similar to finding the ideal set of Cups and Balls. To conclude, the best on the market is best determined by your personal taste. Everyone has their own best. I have been working with coin boxes for around 50 years now and I have my favorites for a variety of reasons. Sometimes, what the box can do is more important than the details of the box itself. In essence, it may well be the only box that can do a particular set of things. |
Scott Horn Elite user Dallas, TX 417 Posts |
It would be great to "try out" different boxes, but with the decline of brick and mortar shops, your would need to purchase a box just to check it out.
I was only highlighting the main feature differences, but "yes," different manufacturers have different wall thicknesses, beveling / rounding, weights, and even metals. You can also find boxes for various coins.. i.e. US dollar, US half, US quarter, and several foreign coins. |
Magical Moments Veteran user 338 Posts |
I always found it lots of fun exploring new coin boxes. Two of my favorites which are far from a standard box so to speak would be the Johnson Magna Coin Box Set and the Sterling Dragon Box.
The Magna because of what it can do and the Dragon because it is a unique coin box made from pewter and dressed up with a nice dragon design on the lid. I have always preferred the Boston as a go to box because of what you can do with it. More possibilities! So, to each his or her own. In any case, fun to explore and practice the various routines. |
griz326 Regular user Eureka, Montana 129 Posts |
I live in Montana. Trying out different boxes is not an option because there are no magic shops.
I have decided to do quarter boxes. The Ousterling Rocky Mountain set looks nice and has at least one little trick that seems to make it special. I've emailed him, but no response yet. |
Magical Moments Veteran user 338 Posts |
By trying out different boxes, I meant buying maybe a few and keeping the one(s) you like and selling or trading off the rest.
Even when magic shops were easier to find, they did not tend to like customers to play around with what they had to sell. I too like US Quarter size boxes. Spectators know the commonly found coin so more practical. Perhaps many of us eventually accumulate several coin boxes over time. They do not take up much space so easy to collect. Also, you never know when you will want to switch to a different box to do routines you discover. What is the Ousterling Rocky Mountain Set? Maybe a set of the different boxes such as standard Okito, Boston, Slot, and a Plug? |
griz326 Regular user Eureka, Montana 129 Posts |
Craig Ousterling is reputed to make very fine coin boxes.
The recommendations of this community are invaluable when it comes to pulling the trigger on premium apparatus. |
Magical Moments Veteran user 338 Posts |
Yes, he is. My question was where did you get the term Ousterling Rocky Mountain Set? I never heard that and believe it does not exist.
Ousterling has sold his boxes at that convention. I am also wondering what you think that extra thing you can do with that set is. May be a bit of confusion here... |
Craig Ousterling Special user 585 Posts |
I can clear up some of that confusion. I did indeed make a Rocky Mountain set. I made them for the Rocky Mountain convention William Rader runs. It was a limited run of maybe ten sets back in September 2016 with a fun looking envelope for packaging. They were half dollar boxes.
They looked like this: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Dap5Dp9F76BX1D1B7 The major difference at that time was the dark lines on a polished banded box. I don't normally offer that combination as it takes extra work. The "extra thing"? Nevermind... nothing to see here... run along. |
Sh9bum9 Regular user 109 Posts |
Beautiful Craig!
Decisions determine destiny. Thomas S. Monson
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griz326 Regular user Eureka, Montana 129 Posts |
Well, I bought slot and Boston quarter boxes from Craig. Wonderful pieces! Side-by-side, Craig's boxes are much larger than my Tango quarter box and have a loose fit. They are also elegant in appearance and feel. The sound made in handling is pleasant to the ear rather than tinny.
My current box routines don't the Ousterling boxes justice. |
Magical Moments Veteran user 338 Posts |
Griz326...what style are those boxes? I think he does a shinny band, two tone, and maybe other styles.
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chinablue New user 52 Posts |
I ordered coin box killers by Doug Brewer took 10 days from states to the UK.Some beautiful routines using the coin boxes
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