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charliewerner Regular user 164 Posts |
Give the deck to your spectator, ask him shuffle... (assuming you going to perform ACR), ask him turn over top card... (SEE HOW HE TURN, THEN TRY DOUBLE LIFT WITH HIS WAY OF TURNING) ... after he turn ask him sign and perform ACR.
My idea was fooling a person with his habit. If a person habit of turning the top cap like a book.. then he wouldn't suspect the magician turning the card like a book will be turning 2 cards. Final tip: If you hold your deck parallel to the audience , he might see 2 cards if they have good eye, lower the deck a bit and look at them every time you perform any sleight...
"Seeing Joy, Sadness, Anger,Contempt,Surprise, Disgust,Fear on people faces are the motivation of my MAGIC" Charlie Werner (C.C.L)
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WillStagner New user 15 Posts |
Jason England has some really good descriptions of DL's on his Foundations DVD over at T11. They range in difficulty, but they're definitely all practical, and they're all any good magician would probably ever need.
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MaxfieldsMagic Inner circle Instead of practicing, I made 3009 Posts |
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On 2011-11-02 22:20, charliewerner wrote: Interesting idea. Never heard that one before. Makes sense.
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Synatics Regular user 156 Posts |
Use any method you like as long as it looks IDENTICAL to the way you naturally turn over one card.
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leolaurindo New user 53 Posts |
For me these direct like the Strike is the best. Don't require a break, just a lot of practice (at least for me, 'cause I wanted it to be perfectly natural)
I don't like doing these "Push-off" which you have to awkwardly turn the card (magician's calls it flourish) |
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Mb217 Inner circle 9530 Posts |
Old string about something people love to talk about. Sorta like the Classic Palm in coin magic. People never get tired of asking about it, trying to develop a better one, etc.
I'm mostly a coin guy but do like playing with the cards some. When this string first started back in 2004, I had practically no DL, I wouldn't even call it decent. But now all this time later, well... Now, I'm not big on get-ready DLs where you have to catch a break on the offbeat, they just look too basic. I think the best one is of the Strike Double variety where you can instantly pull off 2 cards at anytime and within the rhythm of the trick. With that in mind, I began practicing a very effective DL I came across from Jonathan Kamm. Check out his remarkable Ambitious Card Routine to see how effective it is. Anyway, I practiced Kamm's technique and in no time I was doing this thing better than I have ever done it. Today, I have a very good DL if I must say so myself (and I feel I must) and can do it a few differnt ways and off a shuffled deck of cards from a spec or behind my own immediate fair or unfair shuffling of the cards. I can do this quickly and efficiently and hit it everytime now, not to mention it has furthered my confidence with cards bigtime. I can even do a good triple when I need it. This has been a real gain for me, that has allowed me to do all sorts of effects that call for a DL, and really do them convincingly with all the practice I've put into it. It's really pretty simple (I know, easy for me to say now) and Jonathan Kamm's take on it is comprehensive and well taught. Just practice how he tells you to do it and you can do it too. I'm really enjoying card transpositions, ACRs and all sorts of things now because I finally got this thing down good. Sorta like when you finally develop a really good Classic Palm in coin magic, a whole new world opens up with tons of new magic you might never have touched. I'm not the best card guy in the world but I can do a little something more now unlike ever before because I finally got this DL thing down good. Thanks JK.
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magicman491 Veteran user 326 Posts |
I definetely improved from practise, but jason england has a tutorial on theory 11
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Paul24243 New user 51 Posts |
I think any method is the right method as long as it is practiced. Personally I do not like flashy moves as it draws attention to your ability. It is a move that is seen but not seen. I prefer a more subtle, delicate and natural looking turn over. Attention is then only at the cards value.
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KevinWisch Regular user 193 Posts |
Any thread on the Double Lift deserves mention of Bill Wisch's "Wisch Wedge" (formerly the Phan-Thumb Techniques- renamed by Jon Racherbaumer in 2012) which enables Bill to do what Dai Vernon, Tony Slydini, Charlie Miller, Larry Jennings and Derek Dingle told him was "the most natural double lift." The Wisch Wedge DVD is available for purchase at https://www.billwisch.com/store See video from his SAM Parent Assembly "Slydini Inspiration" Lecture in December 2019 (to a packed house- David Roth, Dorothy Dietrich etc were in attendance. Notice the reactions!) in the video below. Also note the two performance videos from Bill's 2009 Magic Castle appearance in the Close-Up Gallery where the move is featured prominently in a combination Ambitious Card/Jennings Transposition routine.
I would also encourage you to check out the free Slydini lecture that Bill did on April 13, 2020 with Scott Wells. Bill discusses the Wisch Wedge and does the "Jennings Transposition" utilizing his double lift at the 50:00 minute mark. He also shows that the move can be used in a triple lift, quadruple lift, etc and remain totally natural looking. You can find that on Scott's "The Magic Word" Podcast Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/themagicwordpodcast (be sure to "like" the page!) or on Bill's website at: https://www.billwisch.com/lecture |
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ltrblst Loyal user 226 Posts |
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On Sep 3, 2012, Mb217 wrote: I saw the demo on YouTube: awesome! Does he teaches the move? Where I can learn it? |
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gillesA4 Special user Brussels, Belgium 593 Posts |
Purchsed it two weeks ago thanks to Marion, and glad I did!
https://jonathankamm.wixsite.com/kammagicshop
We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. (A. Einstein)
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countrymaven Inner circle 1428 Posts |
I have developed a late stage double. to deal with the internet. etc
the spectator mixes the cards, takes off the top one whatever, signs it, you flip it, put it back works like a double with them being able to be in control yet you achieve the same effect, but it stuns them. no clue as to how you did it. |
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magicfish Inner circle 7016 Posts |
Independent invention is common in magic.
Have you researched it to see if it is original? |
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countrymaven Inner circle 1428 Posts |
Multiple methods some never done before. Why? Too many magicians might be trying to get the best double lift video. Just because everyone else agrees may not mean it is the best, but it may. I let others research it. hehe. But I do think at this point the double lift is overdone. Whether you are caught or not. To deceive to the max, we might need other ways too.
Not trying to be different from other artists. I respect the work of and artistry of other magicians. |
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ssibal Veteran user 352 Posts |
There are plenty of methods to perfectly execute a double lift, the problem is that none of them look anything like how a normal person would handle a single card.
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countrymaven Inner circle 1428 Posts |
Ssibal, I like your thinking. I have mostly finished a one finger push off double. I don't mean the so called push off, which is a side push. I mean use one finger or thumb on the middle of a card to push it off like many spectators would do. I like your thinking. First the double is very deceptive--no problem w that. But would some new revamps, with a more natural look add to the deception? Of course for some of us that would work.
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Kaliix Inner circle Connecticut 1990 Posts |
"Normal" people turn over cards in all sorts of ways. Those who perform doubles intentionally in performance are magicians. Lennart Greene, Richard Turner, and David Blaine will all turn over cards very differently, however.
Observing Bill Wisch's turn cards over multiple times in a row (see above) using his Wisch wedge looked pretty dang normal to me. The Strike Locked Double System describes twelve different doubles that resemble the multitude of ways "normal" people turn over cards. I prefer data. Here is how normal people turn over the top card of the deck. Quote: On Jun 25, 2021, ssibal wrote:
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge.
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The Burnaby Kid Inner circle St. John's, Canada 3158 Posts |
Asking regular people to turn over the top card of the deck is one thing, but asking them to show you the top card of the deck is another.
Most people have no reason to do the former. When asked to do the latter, people will usually do one of three things. Assuming the deck is in their left hand, they'll either (a) thumb over the top card with the left thumb, take it with the right and lift it up to show you, (b) drag over the top card with the right thumb, grasp it and lift it up to show you, or (c) with the fingers of the right hand, drag it backwards towards themselves and lift it up to show you (usually in an awkward way).
JACK, the Jolly Almanac of Card Knavery, a free card magic resource for beginners.
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magicfish Inner circle 7016 Posts |
Countrymaven wrote:
"I mean use one finger or thumb on the middle of a card to push it off like many spectators would do." This has been published before. It is something I use often. |
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padre rich Special user 636 Posts |
Learn a second deal...
God's grace rocks! It makes a good cups and balls routine look pretty boring in comparison.
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