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kasper
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I enjoy the non-TT bill switch (Leirpool method). My question is after the switch the spectators want me to open my hands. What do you do about the other bill? After the switch ($1 to $5) I usually say, "Wow I just made five dollars," and ditch both bills in my pocket. Or I'll blow the five dollar bill in the air and ditch the one in my pocket as they watch the five flutter to the ground and ditch the extra bill in my pocket then.

Most of the time I don't have problems with spectators burning my hands on this effect but sometimes they ask to open my hands to see what happened to the other bill. Does any one have this problem? Does any one have any suggestions?

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If you are using a TT then you shouldn't have a problem opening your hands. The TT covers the bill if you are using the method I think you are. Just casually open you hands and show them empty just as you would if you vanished a silk. Hope this helps.
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Is there some reason why you prefer the "no-TT" method? Using a TT, you can show your hands completely empty, add some subtleties from Roger Klause, Ammar, etc. and it's really a foolproof method that looks totally clean.

I used the standard TT bill switch on Saturday night to do Mismade Bill at a small theater and it was definitely necessary to show my hands empty. I did so in the course of displaying the bill on both sides and talking about the weirdly altered bill, rather than making any "look, my hands are otherwise empty" gestures.

You can also do the bill switch (TT) ultra close-up.

So, why does anyone prefer the TT-less method? I honestly don't know.

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I enjoy the TT method. I don't want to have to worry about having to carry one around all the time. I like to be able to do this say at work or when I'm at the beach. I guess I don't want to live my life with a TT on me. I like to be able to do this effect all the time when I'm out and about.

It's like being able to do coin magic whenever as long as as there are coins around. You can say that I'm trying to put together a completely impromptu show. I don't want to bring things with me when I go out with friends or for a walk and some one wants wants to see some magic.

Don't get me wrong, I love the TT method. It would solve my problems. I want to be able to go out without carrying anything. I usually do coin tricks when I go out and I borrow them. I would also like to do this bill switch all the time also. Just borrow a few bills and away you go.

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I despise the TT version. Too mechanical looking. Doing it like the Chicago bar magicians, sans TT is the best. You need to go for something, like a wand or pen, or lighter, something from your pocket to clean up.
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Thanks Pete

I thought about using a lighter but never tried it out. I always felt suspicious about doing that. I use the lighter or wand like that in other things. Why not try it out with this effect.

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Use a magic salt shaker.

Thomas Wayne sells a killer shaker with a squeaker built in...
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Kasper,

The lighter theme gave me an idea, why not use the lighter as a feint, as if you're going to burn the bill? If you suggest this to your audience in advance then they won't even be thinking about a switch, they'll be looking for a vanish and as "the bill" stays in view all of the time then everything appears copacetic. Then change your mind, "Actually I don't think I can afford to burn a 100 dollar bill." Show the lighter on the otherwise empty hand (the bill being ditched on the retrieve), put it away and reveal the switch.

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Don't agree that the non-TT is best, I think its horses for courses, I do both but prefer the TT as well!
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If you ever saw Johnny Paul do the switch, sans TT, you would throw all your TTs away. Seriously. Even Jay Marshall doing it ala Paul will blow you away.
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I think it depends on the venue Pete. If you're doing tricks for buddies or people you work with or family like many amateurs do, many times they want to see, "What else is in your hand?" Just my .02.
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Pete,

I've never tried the bill switch without a TT. Which readily available source would you suggest for an experiment into this concept?
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I first learned the method that James George came up with after seeing Copperfield perform a version of Klause's bill switch. He didn't realize that Copperfield used a TT so he came up with a bare-handed version that looked the same. I think Sorcery still has it in their instructions for the mismade bill and it's a decent place to start if you want to learn a bare-handed version.

Eventually, I learned the version from the Ammar Book of Magic and, after spending a lot of time with Klause, I've been meaning to upgrade to his handling. I've seen a lot of folks do it but I think Klause's handling looks the best.

I'll admit that I've never seen Johnny Paul do it so I guess I've never seen a great bare-handed bill switch but for my money the cleanliness of the handling makes using a TT or a holdout of some sort worth it. I have messed with using my Shamada gimmick for a bill switch but felt it wasn't as open feeling as the one using the TT.

As for the original question, when doing the bare-handed version what can you do? Like they said, come up with a good way to ditch it, sleeve it, find and excuse to dive for the pocket, drop it in your breast pocket as you reach up to scratch your nose. However, while this leaves you clean, you might have a difficult time retrieving the original bill should you need it again.

I actually recommend a technique for showing both hands empty that I first learned as part of Carney's Logical Bill trick. It can be found both in Carneycopia and Carney Knowledge. Basically, the visible bill is held between both hands and the hidden bill is transferred from one hand to another as you bring the ends together and snap the bill back open. It's a reasonably natural action that looks like you're emphasizing the singularity of the bill that allows you to show both hands empty.

After showing both hands empty it's just a matter of having the audacity to hold the dirty hand right in front of them and use it in a very natural manner so that they will not suspect, let alone detect =) that it's dirty. Then go to your pockets at your leisure.

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In my Billion Dollar Bill Switch I put a large paper clip on the bill and ditch it with a strong magnet in my back pants pocket.

It really is ALL ABOUT MANAGEMENT, that's why I don't like the TT version, you are LOCKED into positions and 90% of the guys I have seen do it, YOU CAN SEE THE TT when the seemingly are showing their hands empty.

It is too contrived-looking FOR MY TASTE.
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If you don't use the TT, how would you handle having to change the bill back to the spectator's bill if you've already ditched it in your pocket? That would seem too cumbersome.

Kasper, do you hand the changed bill out for examination? Is that why the spectators ask to see what's in your hand?
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Wow I just made five dollars.

Actually, you should probably say I just made four dollars! Smile
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Pete,

Kasper can't use the lighter idea, because by his own admission, he doesn't want to take ANYTHING with him when he leaves the house...even though the TT would take up far less room in his pocket than a lighter (and would allow one to do about a hundred seemingly impromptu effects as well).

BTW, if you find that spectators are repeatedly burning your hands at specific points in your routines, the first thing you need to look at is your follow-through.
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In days bygone magicians used to reach into their pockets for the 'woofle dust' and ditch the held out object. You can still sometimes see performers use that line.
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I use Paul Chosse's/Ron Bauer's handling in Bar Bill Stunt you show both hands and no TT.

Paul
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I also use a method of holding the "other packet" behind the open bill or in a loose finger palm grip, depending on where I am in the routine.

They will have seen each hand cleanly on both sides (thumbs looking normal). They should be convinced your hands are in fact empty, BUT to remain running a mile ahead just in case they are still chasing me, I use the old hidden coin method behind the bill.

The "packet" is pinched behind with one hand and tranferred to the other hands grip, under the action of snapping the ends of the bill together. Once the hands are shown completely clean, it is then tranferred back to finger palm in readiness for the anti-climatic change back to a smaller denomination.

Once, I had a $10 bill sticking out of my back pocket before I did the TT switch of a $5 to $20. I casually let them glimpse it as I gestured openly with my hands. They fell for the bait and snatched the bill thinking they caught me red handed. The only thing red was their faces when they realized it didn't match either bill. I had plenty of time to go south.
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