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Magicusa Elite user 478 Posts 
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I remember when the Topit was used by shop lifters before it was used for magic. By the way, it's still used by shop lifters.
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24315 Posts
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Actually, the predecessor to the topit is mentioned in Hocus Pocus, Jr., although it isn't described in detail. It's really an offshoot of the gaming bag used not only by poachers, but by gamekeepers. The difference between a gaming bag and a poacher's pouch is the relationship to the tunic or jacket.
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Jordini Inner circle 2765 Posts
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I've heard stories about young hooligans who would sew pillowcases onto the inside of their jackets, which they would fill with candy/etc.
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Paul Inner circle A good lecturer at your service! 4409 Posts
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However, the use of a poachers pouch/hare pocket was different, it was filled while no-one was looking! (anyone can do that). The moveable Topit which pinned in and adapted for magic use was first used as a pack of cards vanish and marketed that way in England by Harold Comden. It was advertised in Stanyon's Magic around 1918.
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts
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Lewis Davenport used to vanish a deck of cards with the topit... and also he would vanish the family CAT... Pat Page learned it from Davenport and was the first to really expoit it magically.
Bob Driebeek invented the Necktie Topit, and Fred Kaps made great use of it. It is currently marketed by Norm Nielsen.
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24315 Posts
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I like the improvements that Jay Scott Berry has made to his version of the device. No more "overshooting the target."
"The Swatter"
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Paul Inner circle A good lecturer at your service! 4409 Posts
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Pete said:
"Pat Page learned it from Davenport and was the first to really expoit it magically" I would have thought the first to really exploit it magically would have been Harold Comden 
But as he was long before my time, I must admit Pat Page was the first magician I saw using it that convinced me it was a great tool. Mike Ammar's much later look at it, and book on it, are well worth reading. Paul. |
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts
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Comden may have locally, but Pat really moved it around with his travels and lectures. And people from all over the world used to visit Davenport's when Pat worked there. That spread its use worldwide.
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BathTub Regular user Wellington, NZ 102 Posts
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A Cat? That would have to be one very sedantry animal, I take it we aren't talking about throwing the animal around, you would never get away with that?
A Cat!
Nigel McNaughton aka 'BathTub'
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Carron Special user UK 958 Posts
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Yes I once read a story about how lewis used the cat, a bowl of rice etc. but his wife wouldnt let him use it on his baby daughter!!!
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The Mighty Fool Inner circle I feel like a big-top tent having 2140 Posts
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Topits topits topits.....WHAT'S A TOPIT??!? *sigh* I know....I know.....I don't get to find out here. But all this talk about overthrowing, Dan Sylvester, and the miraculaous vanishes / productions has me intruiged. I'll have to visit that JSB site and give topits a try.
Everybody wants to beleive.....we just help them along.
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mattisdx Inner circle 1614 Posts
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Heck I use it for shoplifting
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Kevin Ram Special user Travelling through Europe 791 Posts
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On 2004-08-01 13:01, mattisdx wrote: I stole my new topit from the magic shop using my old topit
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts
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Remember the Upside Down Topit??? ARgh...
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Harry Murphy Inner circle Maryland 5445 Posts
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Pete I have a couple of Danny Korem's "Upside Down Toppit's". I think that Danny and Tommy Wonder are the only people who actually made these things work (and look magical).
The artist formally known as Mumblepeas!
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I Cast No Shadow New user 71 Posts
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On 2004-08-11 10:48, kukram wrote: Oh yeah? Well I used a pull to steal my toppit! j/k 
"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious" - Murphy's Corollary
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24315 Posts
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On 2004-08-13 07:18, Harry Murphy wrote: John Cornelius used it before Danny Korem nicked it and sold it for an astronomical price. Al Koran used the principle when he did his version of Leipzig's "pride."
"The Swatter"
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Eddini_81976 Inner circle 2183 Posts
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Didn't Fred Kapps, use a coat tails topit (or pouch) to vanish things as well as the neck tie topit. I think Kapps invented the Coat Tails topit, but I'm not sure....hmmmm?, Ed, (Eddini).
"Treat Others As You'd Want To Be Treated" - Jesus Christ
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts
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On 2004-08-27 07:03, Eddini_81976 wrote: The profonde is described at least as far back as Hoffmann's "Modern Magic", and that I found by grabbing only one book off the shelf.
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Leppy Regular user Eden Prairie, MN 161 Posts
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I have to say that, along with Mr. Palmer, I like the JSB topit. Although this is the first and only that I have tried and used, I do like the way it feels and handles...that is, when I do get the chance to use it. I was first introduced to it at the JSB lecture in the Twin Cities. Does anyone else have any preferances?
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