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swood527
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Hi all. I don't do a lot of card effects but I have one effect that uses the invisible deck. The deck I have is fairly new, and I'm finding it is impossible to get the cards to slide. Aside from just continuous use, is there any way to make the cards easier to separate?
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MagicByVincent
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Dribble a whole bunch of times than rub the pairs together.
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It's very strange that many people have had issue with spreading/separating standard Bicycle ID's, which I presume is what OP has. I just received another Bicycle ID yesterday, from Penguin, Murphy's Magic branding, with the slip featuring Daryl. So, the ID most people get (and from the dealer many people buy from).

I have no issue with spreading the cards or separating the selection. It handles very naturally; you can spread the cards much like how you would if it was a normal deck without the pairs separating. And to separate the pairs, it just takes a very light touch. It's very consistent.

I'm aware that other people could be getting decks that are over-sprayed, as might be the case with OP. But I wonder if, in most cases, the deck's aren't over-sprayed and it's just a handling issue.

So, I wouldn't want people thinking their decks are over-sprayed, then they go through the effort of knocking off the excess over-spray, but in doing so they actually shorten the life of their ID and inevitably develop even worse handling. My 2c
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I just make my own IDs. They handle so much better than most decks that magic shops carry. I still remember being asked by the owner of a magic shop to demo an ID. I had to tell him his decks were unusable. LOL
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Light touch as Will Lane mentioned. I very lightly pull the tip of my left middle finger across the face of the lower card (almost like a cull) as the left thumb barely touches the card above it. Riffling the the short ends to air the deck out might help, but practice is probably your best option at this point.
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The real issue is dry hands. When I was younger I had no trouble with the invisible deck. As I grew older I found I have to put something on my fingers to give them some friction. (This generally means licking them)
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On Dec 13, 2021, MeetMagicMike wrote:
The real issue is dry hands. When I was younger I had no trouble with the invisible deck. As I grew older I found I have to put something on my fingers to give them some friction. (This generally means licking them)


I agree! I find there are lots of actions that ought to be simple, but are not, because I can't get a good grip of the cards.

My advice to the OP is to try Science Friction. It handles very differently from R&S.
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Dry hands made it impossible for me to use an ID.So I made my own with roughing stick across the middle of the cards. Then it just depends on whether I push on the lower third of the card or the middle third.
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I agree that the issue is dry hands. The problem is that roughed cards require a certain degree of friction while NOT applying much pressure. What provides this friction is an almost imperceptible bit of moisture emanating from your fingertips. That’s the reason it seems so easy for some and almost impossible for others. You constantly hear that it just takes a “light touch” but when your hands are as dry as the Sahara desert a light touch does nothing and simply slides along the card without moving it, so you are then forced to apply more pressure which only causes the cards to bond more tightly together.

SF does work better for those with dry hands along with only treating the center third of the card.
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A little Sortkwik on the fingers will help, it is cheap and you can get it at any Office Supply store.
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