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Tielie Special user 749 Posts |
I don't mind set-ups, I do mind gaffs. And I don't want only card tricks. Which book would probably be the most value for me?
My level is about intermediate (i can do some stuff with a deck of cards (I've studied the royal road to card magic and expert card technique very very intence), some sponges and my coin stuff is getting better every day) - collected almanac - magic menu, year 1 to 5 - complete works of derek dingle - collected works of alex elmsley (vol.1 or 2) or maybe something else? I am working my ass of at the moment and I think I deserve a nice quality magic book. I bought the classic magic of larry jennings some weeks ago and I love it. Guess I'm addicted to big books by the legends now
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EricClark New user Boston, MA 68 Posts |
I'd vote for The Art of Astonishment series by Paul Harris. I dare you to not find something in there that you won't use.
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dbiderman New user 82 Posts |
While the art of astonishment is pretty good, imo it is very overhyped and very impractical for the most part
I have derek dingle, and have read inserts of elmsley and the almanac. while dingle does use gaff occasionally, many of his great effects are gaffless, unfortunately, many effects require deck switches, big preparation, and most of his effects are aimed towards throwing other magicians off, instead of creating a solid effect...elmsley is technical and has great material, but if you learn that you don't like his style of magic, than you are stuck with 800 something pages of stuff that you don't like so, to sum it all up, I reccomend the almanac...not only is it a high quality book with practical material, but you will get to sample the style of several different magicians and get to choose who you like more...hope this helped |
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Fayaad Manie Loyal user 237 Posts |
Go for the Collected Works of Alex Elmsley 1&2. The effects are extremely practical, well thought out and very worth it. Definately the choice to go for.
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Jim Tighe Veteran user West Virginia 363 Posts |
I think any one of the Apocalypse Book Volumes has a ton of usable material.
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Rennie Inner circle I think I have about 1826 Posts |
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On 2004-06-25 04:21, Jim Tighe wrote: Would have to agree with Jim on the above, would also have to add Tarbell for all around.If your primary interest is cards though would have to change my recommendations. Rennie
The effect is the important thing, how you achieve it is not.......
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Peo Olsson Inner circle Stockholm, Sweden 3260 Posts |
Greater Magic has plenty of stuff.
Peo
Pictured to the left my hero and me during FISM 2006 in Stockholm.
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meilechl Special user 657 Posts |
I second the motion for the Art Of Astonishment books. Although many of the effects require setups and might be impractical for certain settings, you're bound to find at least a half dozen effects in each books that will make you feel you underpaid.
Also Constant Fooling by David Regal and The Card Magic of Aldo Columbini. |
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Tom Jorgenson Inner circle LOOSE ANGLES, CALIFORNIA 4451 Posts |
And I second Peo's recommend of GREATER MAGIC. You will find a ton of usable work on all phases of magic, and it will be the basic effects and methodologies you need to learn, know, use. You will also be able to jump off into your own, developing ideas from this book. I think this one will give you more to chew on than any of the others, at your level and beyond.
One of the best!
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kid iowa Loyal user Oklahoma 300 Posts |
Go for Henry Hay's Amatuer Magicians handbook, Bill Tarr's Now You See It, Now You Don't (either 1,2 or the notebook), or just go for the "end all" and buy the Tarbell series. Another thought is Sach's Sleight of Hand, Bruce Elliots Classic Secrets of Magic, or John Carney's Secrets or Carneycopia. Stick with the classics (Stars of Magic series etc) and you'll fool the pants off of everyone, laymen and magicians alike. Jim
Any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile...can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction, "I served in the United States Navy." J.F.K.
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stilson New user 78 Posts |
The Dai Vernon Book of Magic is my bible.
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maxrubin New user 11 Posts |
The Klutz book of magic. I'm Serious.
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andre combrinck Special user South Africa 953 Posts |
The Elmsley books and AOA is brilliant.'Impractical',huh?!
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Brian Proctor Inner circle Somewhere 2323 Posts |
"The Magic Menu 1-5" and the "Art of Astonishment" series have incredible magic within their pages. I use many things from them.
"The Magic of Michael Ammar" is something I continue to turn to now and then. A lot of Mike's routines are very practical. Another favorite of mine is David Harkey's "Simply Harkey." But that book is more advanced, you may want to give it a try someday though. I used to own David Roth's "Expert Coin Magic", it had some great coin miracles inscripted in there. A lot of people use his coin magic today. I hope you find what your looking for. Brian |
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Julie Inner circle 3936 Posts |
Depending upon your level of accomplishment, the Books of Wonder will bring you a quantum leap forward in the quality of the effects you are presenting AND you'll enjoy a wide variety of challenges to keep your interest piqued.
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Tielie Special user 749 Posts |
Well I've earned my money lately and I feel I deserve a new book to learn from. Tomorrow or the day after, I am going to buy a new book, and this topic will decide which book it is.
All the replies have been taken and noted, and the ones after this post will be too. Please answer me this: Does the magic menu have more visual stuff then the collected almanac? I am looking for some non card stuff that's very visual. ( a ring that jumps on a shoe-lace and jumps of again, that kind of stuff). I've read the table of contents on the collected almanac and I wasn't that exited really.
Deal cards, not drugs!
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LeConte Special user Bay area 830 Posts |
AOA is what you want it seems to me if you don't have it already. It is full of great card routines and plenty of other great stuff. A true value for your money and If you must start with only one book from the series then I would get volume one. You do not always realize the power of these routines.
The classic and perhaps most practical choice would be Greater Magic, but finding a copy can be difficult at times. Expect to pay $75-$125 for reprints and more for older copies.
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van Loyal user 276 Posts |
"Pure Magic" by Henry Gross
Very underrated book IMO. Van
Later Ya'll
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wsduncan Inner circle Seattle, WA 3619 Posts |
Well, let's be honest here. None of us know you so we can't tell you which books will have stuff you'll use. All of the books you've listed are full of great magic but that doesn't' mean it's right for you (or me or Bob or Cindy...) So we can only recommend those books we like.
Of the books you've listed I'd recommend the Almanac. All the books will give you a ton of stuff to think about... even the ones not on your list that other folks have suggested. But the Almanac is also a historical document that will give you a taste of what the hard core New York gang and the Left Coast bunch were doing back in the day. There is seminal work from Jay Sankey, Lou Gallo and his son Mike as well as stuff form Jennings, Vernon and Skinner which can provide a good education in magic, not just the magic of one person. You'll also find a number of new ideas there and a bunch of overlooked stuff too: A copper/silver routine with sea shells... A deck of cards that gets sucked into a balloon. Derek Dingle's refinement of the old standby toss change. Lou Gallo's replacement for Han Ping Chein (Sankey's too if I recall correctly). A signed dollar changes visibly to a five. my two cents, anyway bill |
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owen.daniel Inner circle England 1048 Posts |
As Dbiderman, has said, I agree that AOA is vastly over rated. I do perform some tricks from this book but some of it seems very impractacle, and are pipe dreams...However this is a brilliantly funny book and really opens ones creativity.
I go for Collected Works of Alex Elmsley. the amount of brilliant tricks in here is immense. from coins, cards and balls to tricks using newspapers and magnets. There is a great variety in here (although most of the book is dedicated to card work). The chapter on the Faro shuffle is worth the second book, and the first chapter with all the details on his false deals is certainly worth reading. Owen |
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