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Phoenix marked cards are fantastic. Miles better than Penguin Bicycle (because Phoenix are easy to read without being too obvious), and GT Speedreader (limiting location and challenging in low light).

I wish Phoenix marked decks were less expensive, though.
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I've experimented with marked cards for a couple of years now. When it comes to my purposes for a mem-deck, I've found that tactile markings are superior.

The biggest tipoff for readers has always been the performer rather than the cards themselves. I only need to mark five cards in the deck, yet I can rapidly feel my way into any specific location. Since I doctor the prop myself, I'm not at the mercy of manufacturers.
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Cain, what kind of tactile markings do you use? Pin pricks or a tiny bit of glue or what?
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Cain, what kind of tactile markings do you use? Pin pricks or a tiny bit of glue or what?


Hi Steve,

Nice to hear from you. It's been a while. I've experimented with punches and even embossing, but I do prefer pin pricks for their precision and consistency. A tradeoff for puncturing is that the marks degrade over time, and, unlike a punch, you can't put the work back into the same exact spot. My rationalization is that everything degrades over time. I have NOT considered tiny dots of glue. That sounds exciting and awesome. Have you tried it? What are the chief drawbacks?
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I do prefer pin pricks for their precision and consistency. A tradeoff for puncturing is that the marks degrade over time, and, unlike a punch, you can't put the work back into the same exact spot.

From what I've read and seen via video demonstration, a Blunt Punch Jig from Eoin O'Hare would solve the problem of repeatedly placing marks in the same spot if you did several of the same cards from a few decks (or a brick) at the same time.
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From what I've read and seen via video demonstration, a Blunt Punch Jig from Eoin O'Hare would solve the problem of repeatedly placing marks in the same spot if you did several of the same cards from a few decks (or a brick) at the same time.


I almost bought it one night on impulse -- and maybe I'll pull the trigger someday. I know it comes with replacement heads, but are those ubiquitous? So much stuff just ends up in The Drawer of Many Things. For creating pierced marks, I bought needles on Amazon used for mounting butterflies because they're supposed to be sharp and tiny. I didn't like them. I prefer the needles that come with my dress shirts. In so many cases, the commonplace items are not just more budget-friendly than bespoke technologies, but much more resilient.
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Cain, what kind of tactile markings do you use? Pin pricks or a tiny bit of glue or what?


Hi Steve,

Nice to hear from you. It's been a while. I've experimented with punches and even embossing, but I do prefer pin pricks for their precision and consistency. A tradeoff for puncturing is that the marks degrade over time, and, unlike a punch, you can't put the work back into the same exact spot. My rationalization is that everything degrades over time. I have NOT considered tiny dots of glue. That sounds exciting and awesome. Have you tried it? What are the chief drawbacks?



It has been a while! Hope you’re doing well. Regarding glue, I’ve read about it somewhere but I can’t remember where. From what I recall, using a pin to apply tiny amounts of superglue can create an embossing that is supposed to be reliable and last a long time. I have never actually tried it.
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Last week, I experimented with some superglue I had lying around. When I could get my single dot/bump, I thought it worked fantastically. Yes, these can shine in the light, and they're not as subtle as pin pricks, but I really like the feel. Unfortunately, sometimes I'd lay down more than a drop, so I've ordered another brand with a "precision" tip. Before reading your post, I did try rubbing some on with a needle, but I was hoping more for a bump than an embossing effect. I suppose embossing would be ideal -- assuming I could reliably and instantly feel it. With stuff like this, I prefer to err on the side of can't-miss rather than super-subtle.
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I found disposable microbrushes on Amazon that I'll try.
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That’s interesting information. Like I said, I’ve never tried it myself, but I’ve always been curious as to how successful it would be. Let me know how those micro brushes work out.
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Last week, I experimented with some superglue I had lying around. When I could get my single dot/bump, I thought it worked fantastically. Yes, these can shine in the light, and they're not as subtle as pin pricks, but I really like the feel. Unfortunately, sometimes I'd lay down more than a drop, so I've ordered another brand with a "precision" tip. Before reading your post, I did try rubbing some on with a needle, but I was hoping more for a bump than an embossing effect. I suppose embossing would be ideal -- assuming I could reliably and instantly feel it. With stuff like this, I prefer to err on the side of can't-miss rather than super-subtle.


I use UV-drying resin, which you can clean off before it is cured. I also typically dip a pin in the resin and use it to dot onto the card.
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That’s interesting information. Like I said, I’ve never tried it myself, but I’ve always been curious as to how successful it would be. Let me know how those micro brushes work out.


It turns out they're not really brushes. They're more like tiny cotton ear swabs, but I imagine Q-tips would leave behind fuzzy evidence. The Gorilla Micro Precise Super Glue Gel Applicator is better than the other brand I had, but there's still a lot of variation in dots. I'm also using too much. In the future, I need to try just embossing a teeny part, perhaps simply using the tip of a microbrush to "dot onto the card" -- and definitely not swiping.

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I use UV-drying resin, which you can clean off before it is cured. I also typically dip a pin in the resin and use it to dot onto the card.


This sounds like a better solution. I don't like working with super glue.
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