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What do you think of this variant with Bannon's "Four Side Gimini" effect dice?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23e8ggl8uUQ&t=9s

In the original effect Bannon suggests two numbers from 1 to 20 to two spectators, but could the variant with the dice make the effect more surprising?

Suggestions for other possible variations are also welcome! ;-)

Thanks!
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The version with dice looks silly to me - just a way to demonstrate the trick without using spectators. A "zoom version" I suppose.

Have the deck shuffled, glimpse the bottom card, riffle force it and have a spectator set the card aside face down or in a pocket. Look through deck removing a prominent matching pair (2 red aces, 2 black jacks, 2 jokers etc) and while doing so, find the three mates of the forced card and move two of them to the bottom, one to the top. Set the pair down face up as your detective cards. Riffle shuffle retaining top and two bottom cards. False cut, then proceed as in the original, but use the face-up counting phase as the kicker. First the two located cards match, then it turns out card in spectator's pocket is a match, then comes the kicker. "Where is the fourth seven? You know, each of you thought of a number. For the first time, can you say what numbers you thought of? Let's add them together." Prefer swing triple false cut over OSE cut. Strong impromptu variation.
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On Apr 24, 2022, martonikus wrote:
The version with dice looks silly to me - just a way to demonstrate the trick without using spectators. A "zoom version" I suppose.

Have the deck shuffled, glimpse the bottom card, riffle force it and have a spectator set the card aside face down or in a pocket. Look through deck removing a prominent matching pair (2 red aces, 2 black jacks, 2 jokers etc) and while doing so, find the three mates of the forced card and move two of them to the bottom, one to the top. Set the pair down face up as your detective cards. Riffle shuffle retaining top and two bottom cards. False cut, then proceed as in the original, but use the face-up counting phase as the kicker. First the two located cards match, then it turns out card in spectator's pocket is a match, then comes the kicker. "Where is the fourth seven? You know, each of you thought of a number. For the first time, can you say what numbers you thought of? Let's add them together." Prefer swing triple false cut over OSE cut. Strong impromptu variation.


Interesting this your variant of the Bannon effect ... if I understand correctly, the spectators involved are three, one is forced the card at the bottom of the deck and the other two are made to think the two numbers?

Also, what presentation can I propose for your variation of the effect?

For the original version of Bannon's effect I copied the presentation of another of his effects:

Prophet Motive III

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMZWafhBCXc

What do you think?

Thanks!
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On Apr 25, 2022, Pyppo100 wrote:
Interesting this your variant of the Bannon effect ... if I understand correctly, the spectators involved are three, one is forced the card at the bottom of the deck and the other two are made to think the two numbers?

Also, what presentation can I propose for your variation of the effect?


Yes, three spectators. I'm still working to streamline the cull procedure. I run the card to the top before forcing it, so it can stay face down. Cut deeper also works here.

Many presentations can be effective. For this variation, either patter about coincidences, or precognition would be good choices.
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On Apr 25, 2022, Pyppo100 wrote:
Interesting this your variant of the Bannon effect ... if I understand correctly, the spectators involved are three, one is forced the card at the bottom of the deck and the other two are made to think the two numbers?

Also, what presentation can I propose for your variation of the effect?


Yes, three spectators. I'm still working to streamline the cull procedure. I run the card to the top before forcing it, so it can stay face down. Cut deeper also works here.

Many presentations can be effective. For this variation, either patter about coincidences, or precognition would be good choices.



Thanks!


For the original version of Bannon's effect I copied the presentation of another of his effects:

Prophet Motive III

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMZWafhBCXc

What do you think?


Best regards! ;-)
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My reading is that you present 4-sided Gemini as an experiment in coincidence. Sounds great! For me matching a card left in the box is a bit "too perfect". A fantastic trick based on the same principle is John Bannon's "Collusion". "Prophet Motive III", as in your video above, is also excellent.
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On May 1, 2022, martonikus wrote:
My reading is that you present 4-sided Gemini as an experiment in coincidence. Sounds great! For me matching a card left in the box is a bit "too perfect". A fantastic trick based on the same principle is John Bannon's "Collusion". "Prophet Motive III", as in your video above, is also excellent.


Glad you mentioned Collusion... it's ending count...what a coincidence! Lynn (who is so happy to be up on the Café again)
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