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Note that my prior Lazy-B3 deck had an elaborate method to handle the situation when an even number was said by a spectator (which included moving the bottom card to the top, doing a glide and false backward count on a 51 card stack).

There is a much simpler method here in Lazy-B4 to handle the even number situation: use a full 52 card stack and simply turn the whole deck face up and deal from there (the red cards will all now be on even numbers). The magician can use patter such as "let's get a better view of the cards as we count" to justify counting from a face-up deck.

Lazy-B4 physical stack:
KH, 3S, AD, 7C, QH, KC, 2D, 8S, JH, 5S, 3D, 6C, 10H, KS, 4D, 2S, 9H, 6S, 5D, 10C, 8H, QC, 6D, 3C, 7H, AC, 7D, 9C, 6H, 10S, 8D, 4C, 5H, JS, 9D, 7S, 4H, 2C, 10D, 4S, 3H, AS, JD, 9S, 2H, QS, QD, 8C, AH, JC, KD, 5C Note that unlike version B3 I am keeping the 5C so this is a full 52 card deck.

The formulas for this Lazy-B4 for "card to number" are the same as Lazy-B3 however the formulas to go from "number to card" are different than Lazy-B3 IF AN EVEN NUMBER IS NAMED.

Lazy-B4
Card to number (same as B3):
Magician says "imagine a deck of cards, do you want me to pull out the red cards or the black cards"? Regardless of their answer you proceed with the red cards asking which suit and then asking whether they want a picture card or number card and then asking them to name the specific card.

The card is named by the spectator therefore the below calculations are done by the shill so he can say the position of that card (and that position will always be an odd number because the red cards are all at odd number positions counting from the top of the normal face down deck and the formulas below for "card to number" will give the correct odd number).

After the spectator names a card the shill mentally does the below calculations and names the card position number.
1. If hearts:
a. subtract card value from 13.
b. multiply the value by 4
c. then add 1 .

2. If Diamonds multiply the value by 4 then subtract 1 .

Note that whether Diamonds or Hearts If the number is a very high number say in the 40s or 50s then just do a normal backward count with the face up deck counting 52, 51, 50, 49 etc until you arrive at the target odd number at the target card.

Lazy-B4 Number to Card note (the below formulas are different from B3):
Note that when doing "Number to card" first divide by 4 (the final
resulting QUOTIENT will be THE CARD VALUE and the
resulting REMAINDER will indicate THE SUIT):

Magician says to a spectator "name any number from one to 52".

If an even position number is said then the shill and the magician have a very clever scheme:
The magician will turn the deck face up and the magician or the spectator will count normally ie: 1, 2, 3, 4 etc. from the face up deck. This means all the red cards are at even number positions.

Actually this should make things simpler for the magician's handling of the deck (the only thing he has to do is turn the deck face up If an even number is said by the spectator).

Lazy-B4:
Calculation for "number to card":
The spectator says any number from 1 to 52.

The shill mentally does the following:
a. DIVIDES the spectator's number BY 4 giving a QUOTIENT and REMAINDER (Note that the remainder can be 0, 1, 2, or 3).

b. If remainder is 1 or 2 then he subtracts the quotient from 13 giving the card value (If remainder is 1 then Hearts, if 2 then Diamonds)

c. If remainder is 3 then
ADD 1 TO THE QUOTIENT giving the card value (note: the suit is Diamonds).

d. If remainder is 0 (Hearts) the QUOTIENT IS the card value.

Note that a remainder of 0 or 1 is Hearts and that a remainder of 2 or 3 is Diamonds.

Also note that a reminder of 0 or 2 means an even number was said by the spectator and the deck will be held face up but it can be dealt from the top or the bottom with the appropriate count (1, 2, 3, 4 etc from the top of the face-up deck or 52, 51, 50 etc from the bottom of the face-up deck) either way will make the red cards be on even numbers.

Of course a remainder of one or three means an odd number was said by the spectator and the deck will be held in normal face down position but it can be dealt from the top or the bottom with the appropriate count (1, 2, 3, 4 etc from the top of the face-down deck or 52, 51, 50 etc from the bottom of the face-down deck) either way will make the red cards be on the odd numbers (hopefully the spectator says an odd number as this is the more natural way to hold the deck ie: face down dealing position).

The shill and the magician both know that the deck will be held face up if the spectator says an even number and they both know that the deck will be held face down if the spectator says an odd number. However it is not necessary for the shill to know this, the shill just uses the formulas.

It is the responsibility of the magician to make sure the deck is face up after the spectator says an even number and the magician's responsibility to control the count.

Normally the backward count 52, 51, 50 etc is only done to save counting time when the spectator names a very high number (either odd or even).
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When performing this acaan trick for a waiter or waitress we normally will do this trick three times:

1. the spectator names the card and the shill names the card position.

2. the spectator names any card position number 1 to 52 and the shill names the card.

3. the spectator names the card and the shill names the card position.

Note that we are only doing "card position to card name" just once therefore nothing to compare it to a second time. That way if they name an even number then it doesn't look quite as weird to turn the deck face up just one time.
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Also we can have one magician friend shill trained to do only "card to number" and another magician friend shill trained to do "number to card" thus making it easier for them.
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This Lazy-B4 deck is identical to the Lazy-B3 deck with the exception that the Lazy-B4 deck includes the 5C at position 52 whereas Lazy-B3 does not. The difference is mainly in the formulas and instructions here.
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Note that even though this stack has every other card the same color I think it is a better looking stack than the Si Stebbins because one red suit is ascending in value and the other red suit is descending in value and the black cards are very hodgepodge.
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