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Fire Starter Inner circle 4809 Posts |
As I said ,i believe it to be ONE special card and 4 outs NOT examinable and like the other versions out there can be used with blank or red ,Blue Cards. I like to do 'John Careys' FATE and that card can be examined. Must admit I have never been called out with B Wave so I might get this.
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videoman Inner circle 6732 Posts |
First of all, for the price I ordered this immediately the minute I saw it was available. It was worth it to me just for the gaff alone even if I didn’t use it for a b’wave effect. You never know when you might get an idea and a particular gaff will fit the bill perfectly.
Also, I went back and watched the video again and I guess I misunderstood the first time I watched it. I thought all the reveals were identical but it appears that 2 have all the cards face up with the chosen card revealed amongst 3 blank cards, and 2 are face down where the selected card is the only card face up. Which would explain the previous issue I was having because when the cards are revealed face up I like the selection having a different back, but when revealed face down I would prefer the back design not to be different, and I guess you can’t have it both ways. AFA as using this version with equivoque, the ONLY advantage I can see to this method is eliminating the the equivoque (and I’m sure many will not see that as an advantage anyway). If you are going to use equivoque you may as well perform the classic version. Although to be fair, a proper and convincing use of equivoque does take skill and practice along with knowledge and experience, so this method does allow even a complete novice to perform the b’wave effect since this method is essentially self-working. This seems like it was fun problem for Jordan to solve and I’m glad he released it as it’s always nice to have options. |
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Fire Starter Inner circle 4809 Posts |
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On May 11, 2022, videoman wrote: Totally agree and well said, I also missed the reveal's being different,will get this for sure. |
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JordanVictoria Veteran user France 370 Posts |
Hello everyone !
Here is a very short video showing you a variation using ERUPTION : https://youtube.com/shorts/HG2HLw841Hc I can see that this trick is almost sold out through Murphy's Magic and that is just crazy ! I know a lot of you ordered it and I'm so grateful for this and your support ! It is possible that this trick sold out before the end of the week so if you are interested I think it's time ! (restock is planed for the end of June). I still have a few on my own website with free shipping worldwide (like 20 units) : https://pctcproduction.com/products/eruption Once again thank you very much for your support, it means a lot to me ! Jordan |
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
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On May 11, 2022, videoman wrote: The Equivoque in Bwave is it’s biggest advantage as no equivoque at all takes place in the spectators minds. I do it the way Eugene Berger taught me and it’s 100% fair both ways so literally no trade offs are needed imo. Infact BWave the Eugene Berger way is in my wallet 24/7 365 days a year it’s that strong. It really is one effect that truly doesn’t need fixing it’s a mind blower to a layman particularly Woman. Best wishes Gaz 😊 |
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rowdymagi5 Inner circle Virginia 3613 Posts |
Gaz,Unless......you perform this at a function where you have people around that saw you perform it earlier. Then, your equivoke is busted. Equivoke is a one time trick for people that haven't seen you perform it before. This new version would essentially allow you to do a repeat performance (when you are around a lot of people).
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videoman Inner circle 6732 Posts |
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On May 12, 2022, JordanVictoria wrote: Jordan, I appreciate your openness and honesty and genuinely being helpful in helping us to better understand your creation. Thank you! I wish all creators were as helpful. |
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
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On May 12, 2022, rowdymagi5 wrote: Not true on equivoque per se but why would you be performing it for the same people twice or have them follow you around anyway? If you are change your effects. I would never let that happen knowingly and I can think of a load of trade offs if I really wanted to go down that route and weaken the effect but I don’t and that’s the same with many effects. I don’t mess with the absolute classics otherwise you may as well do Entourage which is actually a beast in itself imo and as close as it comes to kind of living with Bwave Gaz 😊 |
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rowdymagi5 Inner circle Virginia 3613 Posts |
Gaz,
Street fairs come to mind. Also, I have had people come back to my shows many times, and I can not possibly know who has seen me before and remember what tricks they saw me perform. Not saying you are wrong at all, but I do like to have a different spin on effects from time to time and the more weapons in the arsenal, the better. |
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
Good points and like I say Entourage has no Equivoque and is another great alternative. Best wishes Gaz 😊
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dj Inner circle 1177 Posts |
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On May 13, 2022, Gaz Lawrence wrote: Entourage: https://youtu.be/20FvpP2XUzA |
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JordanVictoria Veteran user France 370 Posts |
Thanks a lot to everyone for your interest regarding Eruption !
All the versions has their cons and pros. Eruption was not created to be THE B-Wave but to please to magicians who don't want to use an equivoque. What I love in this method is the simplicity. You ask for any queen and you can instantly reveal it. I'm not the best to explain my thoughts in english but you can easily ask your spectator to think of a Queen's four of a kind. Then you ask him to erase one of them, a second one and a third one to leave only one of them printed. Now, imagine that in your pocket you have an envelop with 4 cards. 3 cards erased and one that is still printed (and you even took it from an other deck). Take out your cards out of the envelop to reveal the selection. Here is a short video showing you this : https://youtu.be/jEQd4XZM-Sk Once again thanks a lot for your trust ! Jordan |
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videoman Inner circle 6732 Posts |
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On May 13, 2022, dj wrote: Entourage was extremely clever but never my cup of tea but you inspired me to dig it out and play around with it again for fun. I do like that it involves a series of genuinely free choices and it can be repeated if you don’t show the rest as being all jokers, but with the cost of having to add 2 extra cards which really makes no sense although granted, specs do seem to accept their presence. But I still prefer the simplicity of B’wave, which can be repeated also if you don’t reveal the others as being blank, but IMO, having it be 3 phase with one surprise after another is what gives it its real strength and elevates it beyond being a merely 1 in 4 trick. |
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
BWave is my favourite too and it can be repeated as I have also the BWave deluxe set that comes with the Black cards as well. To be fair I do repeat it just to a different group and as you know Bill no equivoque seems evident when done right.
I also never bother with the Black set that came with the deluxe set either but just saying you can. I also much prefer the secondary handling of Entourage on the actual move it’s a Monte move that looks incredibly fair. Gaz 😊 |
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pgarr53 New user 2 Posts |
Hi everybody.
Is it possible to use SF to prepare cards? Thanks, Pedro |
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UnbiasedMagicReviews Veteran user 338 Posts |
Best of luck with your product but I'm sticking with the original Max Maven B'wave.
For those interested, I did mention an UNGIMMICKED version called Red/Blues that was published by Karl Fulves in The Chronicles. I did a demo of the effect here on a review I put together of Max Maven: https://youtu.be/1EBge_hRPTM?t=900
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Noobmaster69 Regular user 143 Posts |
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On May 10, 2022, rowdymagi5 wrote: That only happens if you don't stick to the way Max teaches it and make up your own script... |
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eddie1 Loyal user UK 277 Posts |
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On May 23, 2022, Noobmaster69 wrote: It absolutely can still happen. No equivoke can prevent someone changing their mind. |
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Noobmaster69 Regular user 143 Posts |
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On May 23, 2022, eddie1 wrote: Of course not. But the issue described is not about the spectator changing their mind. It's about them saying something like "oh, I thought you meant to do this or that...". And that just won't happen if you do it the right way. |
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
Impossible with Eugene Berger’s script as they can change their minds so you are talking nonsense imho. I hope that helps Gaz 😊
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