|
|
Go to page 1~2~3 [Next] | ||||||||||
MadisonH Inner circle 1752 Posts |
Kyle’s newest release to the magic community will be available at Magic Live 2022!
If you’ve ever attended a magic convention that Kyle has been at, I’m sure you know who he is. I have personally seen how Kyle gets attacked at conventions with attendees coming up and begging him to show them the routine they’ve been hearing about for the whole convention. He always happily obliges. I’ve had the privilege of sitting down in Kyle’s home for a magic jam once, and I can genuinely say, he is one of the nicest and humblest guys in the community. He welcomed me with open arms and introduced me to several of his local magician friends. It was a great time with great company. Kyle showed me several routines he was working on while I was there, and his creativity glowed in all of them. Big Picture was one of these routines he showed me all the way back in 2018. It was still in its infant stages then, but even so, I could see the incredible potential. Four years later, this routine has now been refined and refined some more, and it is finally ready to be released. Kyle is a working pro, so I’m certain this routine has been tested in front of hundreds of laymen at his residency. When you purchase this routine (or any of Kyle’s routines for that matter,) I can guarantee it has been road tested in front of real people and worked and tweaked until it plays as strong as possible. To learn more about what it is and isn’t and read the full review, click the link below. https://www.magicreview.org/post/big-picture-by-kyle-purnell Congratulations Kyle and the VI team! I think this will be flying off the shelf at Magic Live. Madison |
|||||||||
MadisonH Inner circle 1752 Posts |
The trailer with a full performance has just been released:
I have also just updated the blog post to include the link to the trailer and added a section discussing the advanced handling. Madison |
|||||||||
Futureal Inner circle 1695 Posts |
What a mess of an effect. Who would pay for that, let alone perform it to anyone.
|
|||||||||
Nathan Alexander Inner circle 2021 Posts |
Looked great. And fun.
|
|||||||||
eddie1 Loyal user UK 277 Posts |
Quote:
On May 16, 2022, Futureal wrote: Interested in what makes you say that? I’ve only half watched the trailer with no volume at work but it didn’t seem too bad. |
|||||||||
leipzisch Special user 905 Posts |
Yes, looks pretty good to me too.
Madison, can this go wrong? Eg the spec insisting on looking at a word beyond the bank of words you show them? And... without wanting to fish, is R+S used (I try to avoid it at all costs!)? Thanks! |
|||||||||
Derotanim Regular user UK 126 Posts |
I think this looks fine. The trailer gives a pretty clear idea of the method IMO, and I think it seems decent. Appears to be a free choice. I do wonder whether there is any real merit to this much more gimmicked method, especially when the exact same effect could be achieved with a force of any kind (DFB, Svengali deck / pad, etc.).
|
|||||||||
RNK Inner circle 7491 Posts |
I am wondering if the participant holds off on choosing the item until closer to the end of the deck if this will be a problem? Judging by the demo it seems like it would be a problem.
Check out Bafflingbob.com
|
|||||||||
leipzisch Special user 905 Posts |
That was my question, see above
|
|||||||||
magikyle Regular user 174 Posts |
Hi all
I structured the routine so the only words they ever see prior to naming it out loud are in the stack. This wasn't always the case, and I got burned for the exact reason you are alluding to. It hasn't happened since As to if it is stronger than just a force....yes, it is much stronger. The big difference being with a force,the spec is aware that they aren't given a choice of preference (yes, a choice of preference for the card itself, not not the content of the card). While the spec wouldn't be able to articulate to you the difference, it would definitely be able to be felt |
|||||||||
eddie1 Loyal user UK 277 Posts |
Sorry, I’m not sure I understand. Are you saying that you cannot spread through the entire deck for their selection?
|
|||||||||
magikyle Regular user 174 Posts |
Eddie1, that's correct...there is a bank of carefully selected words that works with the method
|
|||||||||
leipzisch Special user 905 Posts |
Kyle, why not just cycle the same words through the deck? Like a Koran deck but with flashcards?
|
|||||||||
eddie1 Loyal user UK 277 Posts |
I was thinking the same. I suppose there’s a very slim chance the spectator would notice it but would it really matter? You could just be open about it and act like that’s how it’s meant to be. Wouldn’t matter because there’s still so many options to choose from.
I think I’d prefer that to running the risk of them wanting to go too far. |
|||||||||
leipzisch Special user 905 Posts |
Agreed.
Though perhaps there is a methodological reason why the stack cannot be repeated? If not, I think this is a missed opportunity. Imagine the following presentational angle: 'At the end of every gig, I ask the host to say a random word. I write it down on a card and collect them. Here, take a look...' This hook line achieves several things, one of which is to justify any words that the spec happens to see repeated. After all, you didn't choose the words, your previous clients did. Heck, you could even have a bit of byplay about how people imagine they are being random but think alike! |
|||||||||
MadisonH Inner circle 1752 Posts |
It’s all covered in the explanation. But long story short: you’re not asking them to select a card and you’re not asking them to “say stop” on a card they like. You’re showing them some cards and asking them to remember one. They don’t have the opportunity to “keep going” because that’s not the task you’re charging them with.
Hope this helps! Madison |
|||||||||
leipzisch Special user 905 Posts |
Understood, Madison.
As a worker, there will always be that one person who says 'keep going' or 'I'd like to see some of the other words you have there'. It's just a fact of life for magicians. Something to think about. |
|||||||||
videoman Inner circle 6732 Posts |
Looks pretty good to me.
As Madison pointed out, typically in this type of routine you are having the spec say stop, and you can get an obstinate person who is determined to say stop on the second to last card regardless of how slow you deal the cards. That can be difficult to deal with in that type of routine, but in truth, that type of behavior is actually quite rare, especially if you choose an easygoing person to help you. But yes, it is possible. But having a spec say stop is completely different than showing someone a bunch of cards and then telling them to concentrate on one of them. In the case of Kyle's effect I think it’s even much more unlikely that someone can mess you up. You just subtly (or not) make it clear from the outset that you have no intention of going through the entire deck because there is really no need to. Then after so many cards you tell them to remember one that they saw. What are they going to do, tell you they can’t remember a single one of them? If they do that they obviously just want to cause trouble so immediately move on to someone else. AFA having multiples of the same words repeating in the deck, I presume you could make up your own if you really wanted to but I don’t care for having duplicates. Just go thru the stack and say I assume you have one, right? You control the situation. You don’t go thru the cards until they say they have one. You gently force them to have one. Also, a deck of cards is totally different than seeing words. Specs are going to notice duplicate words much more readily than they would cards, especially if they are really focused on them. I don’t know if this is possible but perhaps as an alternate way of having them select one, ask them to select not one but several cards and classic force them a bunch out of your stack. It’s very easy to classic force even for a beginner when you’ve got a bunch of cards to choose from. Then you can allow them to decide on a single word out of the bunch. |
|||||||||
leipzisch Special user 905 Posts |
I'm not suggesting this happens all the time, but it does and will happen, regardless of spectator management (I've performed Vernon's Out of Sight, Out of Mind enough times to learn this the hard way!)
Having a repeated stack of words shouldn't arouse suspicion, if the stack is large enough (eg ten words). And as I mentioned, this can be justified with the correct presentational frame. I like the idea of having x cards which are shown before any instruction is given, so the force cards start say 5 cards in, and are shown just as the key instruction is given. Though to my mind it's still a second best to having the force cards cycled through the deck (if the method allows this). I hope and assume it's possible to make up our own cards, in which case there's enough flexibility to make this discussion redundant! |
|||||||||
PatrickGregoire Inner circle 2239 Posts |
Quote:
On May 17, 2022, videoman wrote: Someone is offered a free choice and wants to accept that offer and they're considered trying to cause trouble? The magician is the one up to no good, so to speak... It's like when I was discussing Quantum Deck with some magician friends a while back and they said "Anyone who would say a small number like '2' is just being an a**." Really? Why?... I would have said a small number, the magician DID ask for any number... Not saying any of this is directly applicable to the presentation and script of Big Picture, just pointing out that a spectator wanting to wait before making a choice is, in my opinion, not necessarily trying to cause trouble. |
|||||||||
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » Latest and Greatest? » » Big Picture - Kyle Purnell *DROPPING AT MAGIC LIVE* (2 Likes) | ||||||||||
Go to page 1~2~3 [Next] |
[ Top of Page ] |
All content & postings Copyright © 2001-2024 Steve Brooks. All Rights Reserved. This page was created in 0.03 seconds requiring 5 database queries. |
The views and comments expressed on The Magic Café are not necessarily those of The Magic Café, Steve Brooks, or Steve Brooks Magic. > Privacy Statement < |