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Dirko Loyal user Michigan 287 Posts |
I know there is other writings on this already but I have a specific question. When I do a DL it use my theumb to rifle up the back of the cards and stop when I feel the right moment. I then hold a break here so I can execute the move. Doing this puts a upward bend in the cards overtime. When you are doing a pressure fan you are springing them downwards I believe. Could this opposite direction of bends make my pressur fab harder to do or is it I just need to practice more?
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Jordini Inner circle 2765 Posts |
Why would you do a DL and a pressure fan at the same time?
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James Luff New user Eastbourne, UK 74 Posts |
Jordidni, I don't think that's what Dirko is saying. The way I read it is he is rifling the cards to do a DL and wants to know if this would be making his pressure fan harder to do.
Firstly, I have to ask why you are doing your DL in this way? It sounds like it would look quite suspicious and it must be hard to know when you have reached the right point. There are other, much easier, ways to get a break for the DL. If you have any good book on card magic, it will contain an explanation. You should just be able to turn over the card as one, no funny moves at all. With enough practise this will become second nature... in fact, on occasion I have found myself doing a DL when I didn't mean to! Secondly, unless your cards have been severely damaged by your rifle, it shouldn't make it harder to do the pressure fan. With practise, the pressure fan is possible with almost any pack, even old worn decks. So, keep practising your fan and like everything it will come with time. Make sure you are using the pressure in the right place on the deck and you use a nice smooth movement to spread them. Regards, James Luff
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Dirko Loyal user Michigan 287 Posts |
Yes James you are correct I do not do a Dl and a pressure fan at the same time. I know it sounds like it would look suspicious but I have been working in resteraunts for over 5 years andhave never been called on it. I "hope" to the spectaters that it just looks like I am playing with the crads. I always put time misdirection between the get ready and the turn over I believe this also helps cover the move. As far as knowing when I have reached the right point after years of doing it this way I guess my thumb is just trained . I can actually tell when I stop on two, three, ect. I can tell the instant it is there so I am not fiddling with the deck at this point.
Thanks for the advice I will keep practicing the pressure fan maybe one day it will just start happening. Thanks again for your help! |
James Luff New user Eastbourne, UK 74 Posts |
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On 2004-06-29 20:02, Dirko wrote: Well, I guess if the technique works for you then that's all that matters. But I would urge you to try a couple of other methods, even if you don't use them. As for the fan, it probably will just come to you. The way it worked for me was finding just the right spot to hold the cards, then I had a "hit and miss" technique which sometimes gave perfect results and other times was awful. The success to failure ratio then improved over time, now I rarely if ever get a bad fan. I hold the deck in my left hand, thumb on the back about half an inch from the bottom with my fingers on the face. I then use the index and middle finger of my right hand on the top right corner of the deck and my right thumb on the base in the middle. Apply the pressure to the corner and release the cards in a similar way to a spring. At the same time I move my right hand around clockwise and my left hand anti-clockwise giving me a very large fan forming almost a complete circle. Good Luck, James Luff
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Dirko Loyal user Michigan 287 Posts |
James,
thanks for your post. One thing that you described that I was doing differently was the position of my right middle and index fiinger. I had them more towards the center of the deck. I tried it your way and the fan was already MUCH MUCH better. It still isn't beautiful but Rome wasn't built in a day. I will keep practicing. Thanks for your help. One other quick question. How far should the deck be in my left hand. Should the left corner be in by the "crotch" of my thunmb? |
Richard Lucas Special user TX fornow- MemberMagicCastle'65-'88 737 Posts |
For splendid fanning and an unusual effect use the Black Tiger Decks with the red pips. These cards are a dream to fan taking no pressure just sping them around by the right index finger in the upper left corner. You will get a perfect fan every time without pressure or bending (not good for your cards). And.... carry a hand held UV Black Light lamp for special effects.
"The only difference between a Card Cheat and a Magician is that the Magician shows off.".......... Jay Ose 1965
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