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Title says it all. Looking for tricks that will surreptitiously take a shuffled deck and set it into Mnemonica stack.

A Penguin Youtube Top 10 video mentioned an unnamed 'Spanish Magician' who has a set of tricks that can accomplish this. Anyone familiar with this, or other ruses?
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Totally useless. (unless you're a "living room magician" for the theoretical exercise - with which is nothing wrong).
That is my opinion and that of Benjamin Earl and Asi Wind.
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Thanks for the help.
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Patrick Redford’s Thought Master will do that for you. It gets you into his stack but it should be applicable for other stacks. In Roger’s Thesaurus, David Carre has a set called Total Cull which can set a deck into a stack in the process of doing several routines. There are others out there and I will end with this statement that someone once told me, you could just do a deck switch. With what I have seen in print you would have to go through several routines to get your deck into a stack. Are you going to do a set that may last 20 - 30 minutes just to get into a stack and then do another 30 minute set of magic? I only say this because today most people’s attention span for card magic is probably 15 minutes.
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Patrick Redford’s Thought Master will do that for you. It gets you into his stack but it should be applicable for other stacks. In Roger’s Thesaurus, David Carre has a set called Total Cull which can set a deck into a stack in the process of doing several routines. There are others out there and I will end with this statement that someone once told me, you could just do a deck switch. With what I have seen in print you would have to go through several routines to get your deck into a stack. Are you going to do a set that may last 20 - 30 minutes just to get into a stack and then do another 30 minute set of magic? I only say this because today most people’s attention span for card magic is probably 15 minutes.

Very wise words.
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Title says it all. Looking for tricks that will surreptitiously take a shuffled deck and set it into Mnemonica stack.

A Penguin Youtube Top 10 video mentioned an unnamed 'Spanish Magician' who has a set of tricks that can accomplish this. Anyone familiar with this, or other ruses?


I've used, a few times, something I learnt from a Card Magic FISM winner...

Can you please send a link to the Penguin video you're referring to?

Thanks
Mark
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Patrick Redford’s Thought Master will do that for you. It gets you into his stack but it should be applicable for other stacks. In Roger’s Thesaurus, David Carre has a set called Total Cull which can set a deck into a stack in the process of doing several routines. There are others out there and I will end with this statement that someone once told me, you could just do a deck switch. With what I have seen in print you would have to go through several routines to get your deck into a stack. Are you going to do a set that may last 20 - 30 minutes just to get into a stack and then do another 30 minute set of magic? I only say this because today most people’s attention span for card magic is probably 15 minutes.


The method I am referring to (see above) is certainly not short, but doesn't take more than 4-5 minutes, during which you are performing a few simple pick-a-card-and-I-find-it kinda tricks, talking, interacting with the audience and so on ...

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On Oct 6, 2022, PapaG wrote:
Title says it all. Looking for tricks that will surreptitiously take a shuffled deck and set it into Mnemonica stack.

A Penguin Youtube Top 10 video mentioned an unnamed 'Spanish Magician' who has a set of tricks that can accomplish this. Anyone familiar with this, or other ruses?


I've used, a few times, something I learnt from a Card Magic FISM winner...

Can you please send a link to the Penguin video you're referring to?

Thanks
Mark


PMed you. I know that Paco Nagata has some work — which I’ve yet to read — on setting up Mnemonica in performance. It might have been him they were referring to.
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Euphoria from Adrian Guerra (for first or second half of the deck - 26 cards)
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The last effect in the Encyclopedia of Card Tricks by Jean Hugard is entitled, A Subtle Game and it allows you to do what you're asking. It's on page 402 of most copies. It's a trick that allows you to set up your deck in any memorized order and it's pretty entertaining in its own regard. It's the creation of Louis T. Nikola although it seems to be a variation of a previous routine. Nikola applied the older principle to the memorized deck and really changed the dynamic of stacked decks (in 1927, no less!). It's very satisfying knowing that you are setting up a memorized deck right in front of the spectators without them knowing.
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Euphoria from Adrian Guerra (for first or second half of the deck - 26 cards)



This is the video I was referring to ...
After putting in order 26 cards, he goes on with a memory piece and orders the secon half.

Mark
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