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Simloki New user Midwest USA 10 Posts 
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...and we're not talking deodorant here
 . I'm trying to gaff some cards and wondering what are the pros and cons of r**ghing stick versus a spray can (which is what I've used in the past). The spray seems to leave a visual hint when looked at in the right light---I'd like to avoid that.
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Poof-Daddy Inner circle Considering Stopping At Exactly 5284 Posts
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A stick will be worse at leaving visual evidence.
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Julie Inner circle 3947 Posts
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Back in the olden days, we used liquid ruff--g stuff and a cotton ball.
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Simloki New user Midwest USA 10 Posts
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On Oct 13, 2022, Julie wrote: I may try spraying onto a cotton ball first and seeing if that smooths out the texture a bit. Thanks. |
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Julie Inner circle 3947 Posts
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Use a VERY THIN coating at first, let it dry thoroughly and in the unlikely event this doesn't do the job, apply another THIN coating.
Also be aware many have discovered it is more useful to coat a limited area as opposed to the entire surface of the card(s). |
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DelMagic Special user Delaware 751 Posts
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If you ever use a liquid like we did in the old days of roughing, do not use cotton balls. Whatever you use, make sure it is lint-free. I used lint-free cheese cloth.
Check out this thread for another alternative. (page 32) https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/view......tart=620 |
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Alan Munro.jpg "View Profile") Inner circle Kentwood, Michigan, USA 6048 Posts
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On Oct 13, 2022, Simloki wrote: I use Liquitex Matte Medium in a plastic bottle and apply it with a cotton ball. I found the stuff at Hobby Lobby, years ago. |
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Paul24243 New user 56 Posts
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As Julie said, only a thin coat, start the spray and steadily pass over the top half of the card/s and then back over the bottom half.
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Jansor New user 4 Posts
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I recently posted about Krylon Matte and Non-Skid sprays I discovered as an alternative for R&S.
Here is the post: https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/view......orum=203 The Krylon Matte Finish Chalky is hard to see and to feel, so the cards look and feel normal. You can even hand them to a spectator and they won't notice anything unusual about them |
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Magical Moments Special user 872 Posts
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On Oct 12, 2022, Julie wrote: I used to use that little glass bottle from Louis Tannen. I believe I still have one of those bottles with the Tannen name and trademark on it. |
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markymarkmagicuk Veteran user UK 371 Posts
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Was interesting to read Julies post, as it brought back my memories from the 70s when Harry Baron sold me a small glass bottle of roughing fluid (his secret formula) a golden color liquid that you did indeed apply to cotton wool and smear over the cards. This stuff was amazing and working for years.
I've since tried all the roughing sticks and had moderate success but they usually leave traces, I'm convinced I'd get same results by rubbing a candle over the cards!!!! I always revert back to the various Matt clear coat spray cans these work well and last well. For those who are as old as me will remember we used to use sugar dissolved in hot water, wiped this solution over cards, when dried they had stickiness to grip cards, but probably not a good idea if you're performing at a outdoor picnic, you may get swarmed by wasps, or witness the ants marching off with your cards!!! Now that would be an amusing sight!!! LoL |
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Nikodemus Inner circle 1497 Posts
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I like Science Friction (which is a spray). You only need it on one card for it to work, rather than both cards. Also I find it more reliable with my dry hands.
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badwords New user 99 Posts
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I started using Mack's Ear Plugs as a sort of stick recently as recommended in the post below. Only thing is I find getting the cards to separate during something like a spread way too impractical. So I use a spray for something like an ID and these plugs for color changing deck finishes, finishing packet tricks clean, Monkey in the Middle, etc. Really recommend trying out these Mack's.
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On Oct 19, 2022, Ed Wilde wrote: |
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martonikus Regular user 178 Posts
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Voting for the stick! Practical, convenient and precise!
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LeoTheJet Special user 501 Posts
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Science friction 100%. Love that stuff. Always have a few roughed cards on me to make their card disappear from the deck while it’s in their hands.
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gdw Inner circle 4892 Posts
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I carry Mack's ear plugs in my close up case for IT work.
Gonna have to try this out!
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27447 Posts
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On Jun 17, 2024, LeoTheJet wrote: Does anyone in continental USA carry that product?
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rowdymagi5 Inner circle Virginia 3732 Posts
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On Jun 25, 2024, Jonathan Townsend wrote: Nope! I contacted Card Shark and they acknowledged that they have not shipped any to the USA in a long time. They were not sure when they would again. |
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Magical Moments Special user 872 Posts
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Using a liquid runs the risk of leaving the surface of the cards with a yellow tint. Many years ago, Haines used a substance which left a faint powdery finish to the cards but I was never ever called on it. I liked what Haines used better than any other substance I have ever seen.
Never used a roughing stick but am thinking it would be a good choice. By the way, any substance I have seen has a smell to it. So, there is another issue to consider. |
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Mindcraft New user 41 Posts
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Roughing stick, Surfers Wax, Plastidip, Science Friction.
All very good, Dr Zogs (surfers wax is my no1 followed by Plastidip). Rough the top and bottom 1/3 and leave the middle band free for separation, it’s better than1 stripe in the middle from my experience. |
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