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Requested Magic Review - The Royal Road To Mentalism Vol 1 by Peter Turner and Mark Lemon



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If accurate, that review is a bit disappointing as I like Peter and Mark and would expect better...
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On Nov 22, 2022, saturnkk wrote:
If accurate, that review is a bit disappointing as I like Peter and Mark and would expect better...


Of course, it is accurate. Go check out the source material I referenced for yourself. Almost unbelievable.
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On Nov 22, 2022, saturnkk wrote:
If accurate, that review is a bit disappointing as I like Peter and Mark and would expect better...


Of course, it is accurate. Go check out the source material I referenced for yourself. Almost unbelievable.


I believe that you researched it. I still would like to hear their side of the story... Perhaps there is an explanation?
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Now I am curious about the others... UMR are you planning to review more of this series?
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I don't have this or intend to get it but I did read the add blurb and listened to them on the videos onsite.
My understanding of what was being sold was their interpretation and spin on The Royal Road to Card Magic by Jean Hugard and Frederick Braue, making it a bit more mental magic than card magic.
Osterlind did a similar thing with Annemann bring him to a new audience.
For a younger generation who don't dive into books as much as downloads these days, it makes learning the basic foundations much more appealing.
I never thought there was any intent to claim it was theirs, just an updated way of presenting this material to bring it into todays younger persons visual expectations.
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I don't have this or intend to get it but I did read the add blurb and listened to them on the videos onsite.
My understanding of what was being sold was their interpretation and spin on The Royal Road to Card Magic by Jean Hugard and Frederick Braue, making it a bit more mental magic than card magic.
Osterlind did a similar thing with Annemann bring him to a new audience.
For a younger generation who don't dive into books as much as downloads these days, it makes learning the basic foundations much more appealing.
I never thought there was any intent to claim it was theirs, just an updated way of presenting this material to bring it into todays younger persons visual expectations.


Osterlind specifically was presenting the magic of Annemann by taking the effects, updating them, and performing them.

Regarding this first Volume of this series, You will not find this principle anywhere in the Royal Road to Card Magic (Unless I missed it!) I went through the entire book twice. I invite anyone to show me where it is!
In the video, he specifically states that he used the principle from RRCM to come up with this effect.
Even if you were to take what they say on Ellusionist (the methods are the same but the presentations are worlds apart) - this is totally wrong. The presentation is exactly the same!
The Annemann effect is already a mental effect with playing cards and Pete presents it exactly the same way.

You can't take someone else's effect that is in print and claim that you came up with it yourself. That's exactly what he is doing. In the video, he specifically states that he used the principle from RRCM to come up with this effect. So do you think that it is ok to claim that you are taking principles/card ideas from the Royal Road to Card Magic and instead take a routine from a completely different magician that is in print and present it as your own???

If they are doing what you claim - then the card routine would not be a mental card trick and the effect would actually exist in the Royal Road to Card Magic. Not to mention that the presentation would be completely different from the original - since that's what they are claiming to do - not just recycle someone else's trick. RIGHT?
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Cool your heals bud. I'm not claiming anything, I stated I do not have it, just read and looked at the promo's and that was the impression I got.
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I would urge anyone who has purchased this to check out the Royal Road to Card Magic as well as all the source material I have gone over in my review. Anyone and everyone can clearly see the origin of the effect and who really came up with it.
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Thank you for the review!
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