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***. I was hoping Brainwave Redux was going to be perfect. Arriving tomorrow. Will share my thoughts.
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I got it in today. I really like it!

They credit well in the beginning of the video, you know where the foundation of the idea comes from and it makes for a very clean looking brainwave where you don’t even know what card they are thinking of and they do the work for you and spread through the deck themselves to get half the work done.

The huge benefit for me and what makes me excited about using it is that it’s not gaffed to the hilt. It uses something we all know, and we are taught what to use and how to make it but only a bank. Which is where the Crossroads credit comes from. So I can now do a brainwave and go into other things with the same deck, avoiding the one trick pony deck. So one could routine around this deck without having to carry another.

I plan to take it around town and at the convention with me this weekend and working it.

If anything he should sell a license to sell these for pitchers who pitch decks, as this is a better entryway than the brainwave itself imo and a lot less of a learning curve and very much something someone like a laymen getting into magic could pull off almost immediately.
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Glad to hear Blindside785 is liking this. I should have my deck early this week.
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I got this because I'm a sucker for gaff decks. And while I can certainly appreciate the thought and workmanship behind it, my honest assessment is that I just don't see myself carrying around an extra one-trick gaff deck to pull off the same effect that the Chicago Opener does much better, since with the CO the spectator can pick or name *any* card (as mentioned above, with BWR you have to force one of eight cards). All that's required for the CO is one extra odd-backed card, no need for any gimmickry or gaffing, leaving one free to use the same deck for other effects. Plus, of course, you finish off with a nice transformation/transposition (though you could of course leave this part out, but why?). And the deck of course is 100% inspectable. Because of that, I really can't see what advantage the BWR provides.
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On Mar 17, 2023, Blindside785 wrote:
The huge benefit for me and what makes me excited about using it is that it’s not gaffed to the hilt. It uses something we all know, and we are taught what to use and how to make it but only a bank. Which is where the Crossroads credit comes from. So I can now do a brainwave and go into other things with the same deck, avoiding the one trick pony deck. So one could routine around this deck without having to carry another.

I don't understand how you can go right into another routine when you have 7 odd-backed cards left in the deck when you're done, not to mention the other gaffing that makes the effect work. Or do you mean routines that specifically call for having odd-backed cards mixed into the deck?
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Those interested might like to checkout My Take On The Brainwave Effect.

Enjoy! Smile


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Received this. Agree with Topcliffe 100%. The approach is clever but I purchased this under the impression (given by the initial trailer) that the spectator could name any card. They can’t… and for this reason, I won’t be using this.
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On Mar 20, 2023, Ustaad wrote:
Those interested might like to checkout My Take On The Brainwave Effect.

Enjoy! Smile


Smile


Thanks Ustaad! Love it.
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On Mar 19, 2023, Topcliffe wrote:
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On Mar 17, 2023, Blindside785 wrote:
The huge benefit for me and what makes me excited about using it is that it’s not gaffed to the hilt. It uses something we all know, and we are taught what to use and how to make it but only a bank. Which is where the Crossroads credit comes from. So I can now do a brainwave and go into other things with the same deck, avoiding the one trick pony deck. So one could routine around this deck without having to carry another.

I don't understand how you can go right into another routine when you have 7 odd-backed cards left in the deck when you're done, not to mention the other gaffing that makes the effect work. Or do you mean routines that specifically call for having odd-backed cards mixed into the deck?

They aren't any odd back cards in your deck unless you want them to be.
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I got mine and I like it. But, this is something to be performed in a situational environment. I work bars where they drink hard, this was hard to do for them.In a quiet environment and spectators being focused, great.
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FWIW, I had the pleasurable opportunity to spend some time with Frank Everhart in Key West the last few weeks at his magic bar.

He does an effect Brainwave-like, with no gimmicks. Unless you consider one-off color d*pl**ate (did I really have to do that ** thing?
I dunno ;-) a gimmick.

Anyway, with a good f*r*e (I know, I did it again Smile you can get the same effect and reaction.

Sure, buy a deck to do the work for you if you like; I love his effect (and so do the audiences, over, and over...) I was there for 5 weeks and we had tons of spectators, and they ALL had killer reactions and not once did he ever get close to being caught out.

FWIW
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On Mar 23, 2023, daver wrote:
FWIW, I had the pleasurable opportunity to spend some time with Frank Everhart in Key West the last few weeks at his magic bar.

He does an effect Brainwave-like, with no gimmicks. Unless you consider one-off color d*pl**ate (did I really have to do that ** thing?
I dunno ;-) a gimmick.

Anyway, with a good f*r*e (I know, I did it again Smile you can get the same effect and reaction.

Sure, buy a deck to do the work for you if you like; I love his effect (and so do the audiences, over, and over...) I was there for 5 weeks and we had tons of spectators, and they ALL had killer reactions and not once did he ever get close to being caught out.

FWIW


But that's not the same effect (colour changing card vs odd backed prediction card), unless he's forcing the card face up, in which case he might as well not use a duplicate and just force the odd-backed card.
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Just received this today. My opinion: It's not horrible but this is a step backwards... The end of the tutorial talks about what to do if it goes wrong, and how it *will* go wrong every now and then. It feels like if this came out before Brainwave, Brainwave would be the one gloating that it had solved the issue of the trick not always working. You don't gain enough by having the spectator spread through the cards to find their card to justify this method. You might as well just have the whole deck gaffed and equivoque a colour, or have all the court cards gaffed and equivoque to court cards. That's probably the best application of this method, and I feel like that's probably not even a new idea.
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Uday, Tarbell was teaching this method in his lectures about 70 years ago or so.

However with this method you can only show the card as having a different color back but not reversed in the deck, right?

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On Mar 16, 2023, Ustaad wrote:
Sorry for going off-topic.

IMHO the days of the good old classic Brainwave Deck and its many similar variants is over.


I feel that the alternate method Brainwave Deck (its MY own term - I will tell you in a moment Smile) is a much better alternative to the old classic.

Both, the old classic as well as the alternate method has their own advantages & limitations. In the old classic the deck cannot be examined but the thought of card can be. Whereas, in the alternate method it's vise-a-versa - i.e. in this method you have an absolutely normal deck of cards with just 1 extra (additional) card - Thus the deck can be FULLY examined but not the thought of card.

Keeping the above in mind, you need to decide (between the two) which one you consider to be better for your performance - Ah! You have a choice. Smile

OK, most of us know the classic Brainwave Deck and its working. For the alternate Brainwave Deck method I would suggest 'The Brainwave' effect in Magic Maker's 'Underground Magic' DVD. This method needs only one extra card. To know what kind of extra card is needed, you will need Magic Maker's DVD. Smile

However IMO Magic Maker's Brainwave is not perfect. It needs slight tweaking/ modification to make it NEAR perfect. In magic nothing can be called perfect/ ultimate. You always have room for improvement. Smile Smile The back of the EXTRA card needs to be spayed with transparent Repositioning Glue (a light coat will suffice); OR else use Double Sided Stick Tape ( I would personally avoid using DS Stick Tape). That's it! Smile

I have been using Magic Maker's method for years and it simply kills. Smile

Enjoy!

Back on-topic please.

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P.S. I had talked and suggested the Alternate Method almost 12 to 13 years ago, right here on the Café.
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Not advised, but technically you could have the gaff in the middle of the deck with the odd back facing the same way as the faces of the rest of the cards. They name a card, you spread through face up, cull their named card without them seeing it (as you go through the deck and upjog the face down odd-backed card), take the face down card out, turn the rest of the cards face down, place gaff on top of the deck and double turnover. Again, not advised.

Besides, Brainwave Redux can't have the odd-backed card face down in the deck either.
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On Mar 24, 2023, Maxyedid wrote:

Uday, Tarbell was teaching this method in his lectures about 70 years ago or so.

However with this method you can only show the card as having a different color back but not reversed in the deck, right?


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On Mar 16, 2023, Ustaad wrote:

Sorry for going off-topic.

IMHO the days of the good old classic Brainwave Deck and its many similar variants is over.


I feel that the alternate method Brainwave Deck (its MY own term - I will tell you in a moment Smile) is a much better alternative to the old classic.

Both, the old classic as well as the alternate method has their own advantages & limitations. In the old classic the deck cannot be examined but the thought of card can be. Whereas, in the alternate method it's vise-a-versa - i.e. in this method you have an absolutely normal deck of cards with just 1 extra (additional) card - Thus the deck can be FULLY examined but not the thought of card.

Keeping the above in mind, you need to decide (between the two) which one you consider to be better for your performance - Ah! You have a choice. Smile

OK, most of us know the classic Brainwave Deck and its working. For the alternate Brainwave Deck method I would suggest 'The Brainwave' effect in Magic Maker's 'Underground Magic' DVD. This method needs only one extra card. To know what kind of extra card is needed, you will need Magic Maker's DVD. Smile

However IMO Magic Maker's Brainwave is not perfect. It needs slight tweaking/ modification to make it NEAR perfect. In magic nothing can be called perfect/ ultimate. You always have room for improvement. Smile Smile The back of the EXTRA card needs to be spayed with transparent Repositioning Glue (a light coat will suffice); OR else use Double Sided Stick Tape ( I would personally avoid using DS Stick Tape). That's it! Smile

I have been using Magic Maker's method for years and it simply kills. Smile

Enjoy!

Back on-topic please.

Smile
P.S. I had talked and suggested the Alternate Method almost 12 to 13 years ago, right here on the Café.


@ Maxyedid: You might like to checkout my following post. And BTW I'm not Uday. Smile

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On Mar 20, 2023, Ustaad wrote:

Those interested might like to checkout My Take On The Brainwave Effect.


Smile
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There's another version (52 B Wave) where you equivoque a suit, any card can be named, that card is face up in the face-down deck AND the card has a different-color back AND all the rest of the cards are blank. I like the kickers! This can be effective if you use a similar, but more fair procedure to narrow to one card as you use to narrow to the one available suit. A jumbo version is currently available, in which only the color need be equivoqued.
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