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Roger Kelly
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I think Jacob meant Creations - probably a translation thing. Nicely put though - couldn't think of a polite way myself Smile
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There you go using more words that I now must understand Bill.
Magic is doing improbable things with odd items that, under normal circumstances, would be unnessecary and quite often undesirable.
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Just trying to clear up a translational problem for jacob boehme. The differences between words in any foreign language can be subtle. But it can really change the perception of a trick or a concept if you miss a translation by just a little bit.

Mark Twain once wrote:

"The difference between the right word, and the almost right word, is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
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Just received PG's books, "Nocturnal Creations" and "Card Magic Companion" direct from the good man himself!

What a bargain! £19 for the two. They are lovely books but I've only quickly skipped through them at the moment. Any recommendations from out there as to what to 'hit' first out of these tomes?

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I would 'hit' the author for his stealing so much good stuff from others! (exactly what his hero harry loorayne did with HIS first book - close up card magic).
I do not want to join the many thousands who know he is stealink material...so I will be positive and say " enjoy the cheap price of £19
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Thank you - welcome back! Nice name.
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Fishy.........................

Not you Mr. Kelly, unless you do like fish.
Magic is doing improbable things with odd items that, under normal circumstances, would be unnessecary and quite often undesirable.
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Josh - love it!

But the same bad smell of old fish allways comes up when the subject of Paul Gordon comes up - and its usually from someone who has just created a 'new' profile and hides behind it. Ho hum. each to their own eh?
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Glad you like them Roger - dunno where to tell you to start - Nocturnal Creations is his first book so start there my old mate and work thru the effects with cards in hand. Try Millenium Collectors, Twister, Perfect Heist & Easy Ace Estimation. Oh by the way, the people named in italics are not acknowledgments mate and their books that Paul recommends don't really exist. Remember, he never credits anyone so this is all a figemnt of your imagination.

Oh look we've got another Anti-Gordon'ite - what a surprise - well there are THOUSANDS like him - (according to him).

No doubt he's sitting there gleefully thumbing thru Hofzinser, Professor Hoffman & Erdnase as he clearly doesn't like advancement or variation. Oh of course, it's not using your own creativity to make an effect simpler - it's now called stealing - smacked wrists Paul you naughty, naughty boy!
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On 2004-12-28 14:01, Pete Biro wrote:
I hate to repeat this, and especially since Derek isn't here to respond... but at a party one night (at Dingle's home) he and Scott York did a lot of incredible, technically awesome magic. Then, as I was there, Derek asked me to do something. I had NO PROPS, none of my stuff with me... BUT ... I did some simple card stuff and a bit of Jay Marshall style Table Crap...

Later Derek said to me, something like, "I don't get it... Scott and I did some of the best card magic there is, but you KILLED the audience with 'nothing' -- and we didn't get much audience reactions at all..."


That reminds me of a funny story. over 30 years ago, Dai Vernon, Ed Marlo and me were at the Playboy mansion doing magic. vernon is doing his card tricks and marlo is doing his tricks but no one was really reacting. then the two of them started fighting over the tilt move (or depth illusion) so they asked me to do something. I didn't have my tally hos with me so I did the trick where it looks like you are pulling your thumb off but you really don't and all of the playboy bunnies went bananas !! at least three of them gave me their phone numbers and with tears in their eyes, vernon and marlo said "Walter. I did the Allan Kennedy Center Deal and Eddie (vernon used to call him that) did his oil and water that used the Marlo angle steal - how come you always get the chicks?" I looked him in the eye and said "While you boys are fiddling with the deck, learnin' all kinds of fancy shmancy sleight of hand, I focused on the most important thing. That's right - presentation."

So let that be a lesson to you.
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So, you taught Vernon about presentation? I always knew he lacked that. Smile
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This has moved past fishy, I think this post should be moved to bizarre.

By post of course I mean thread, but who really is paying attention anyway?
Magic is doing improbable things with odd items that, under normal circumstances, would be unnessecary and quite often undesirable.
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Personally, I didn't find anything that suited me in Protean Magic by Paul Gordon. As a single book, it makes too many references to moves not explained in the text nor does it offer any real thinking behind the effects.

Only my opinion here, but that specific book just seemed incomplete. It seems a collection of notes about tricks rather than well thought out effects.

Just me. I haven't seen any of his other books so I'm only speaking about Protean.
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Thumbslinger - mate I think you pulled out the worst book that Paul has produced to be honest. However, the referrals to Nocturnal Creations shouldn't hinder any progress of the effects therein. Totally Baffling Card Control, Diminshing Not Likely, Simon's Aces & Waddingtons (cos I use Waddingtons cards) - (tho variations for US packs are given) are *** good effects - you may want to revisit them.

In the words of Fred Kaps - "learn to read your book properly by eliminating all that you CANNOT use". I learnt this myself just a few weeks back by re-reading the John Hamman book - it had been gathering dust for over 10 years yet it's chock full of good card magic that I didn't appreciate at first.

I think if you brought Nocturnal Creations, you'd be really pleased with the content but that's your choice. For the price Paul charges, I truly believe it's a bargain.

I realise that you have based your opinion on one book and that has given you a false impression. That said, I should perhpas heed my own thoughts and try sometihng else by Ed Marlo as the book of his that I do have (Card Magic of Ed Marlo) left me cold. Any advice chaps on another of his books?
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That said, I should perhpas heed my own thoughts and try sometihng else by Ed Marlo as the book of his that I do have (Card Magic of Ed Marlo) left me cold. Any advice chaps on another of his books?


I highly recommend "The Cardician". There are many great effects in that book - even if you don't perform them as described, they would still make excellent building blocks for card routines.

The other book I would recommend is called "Marlo In Spades".

I would start with these two books. If you don't like either of them I doubt you will care for any of Marlo's stuff.
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Mark - I've seen these at a decent price at the online Gamblers Book Club in Vegas. Does anyone know of this company and what they are like - they are useless at responding to eMails.

Do these books contain effects using the Marlo Placement Technique - I like this a lot.
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Paul is a great card man
I think we are all priveliged that he chooses to share the magic with us that has earnt him a living for 15 years!!
here's to your next book, paul
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I say that Greg Wilson is the best 'Modern' card/close up worker of all time! He has AWESOME presentational skills and his technique is flawless from what I have seen!

Does anybody know if greg wilson is a member on these boards?
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It is difficult to say who is the greatest magician of all times as not everyone gas seen everyne else perform, or see all creations. it is just peoples opinion on what they see on face value. In my opinion, Shoot Ogowa is the best modern day magic. However, there are many more that you cant compare as everyone does things differently. Magicians from T.H.E.M are very talented and clever, especilly Cyril, who has done a card through window on a submarine, and then pulled the signed card back through and it was dripping with water. However, there are also the modern day legends such as Whit Haydn and Steve Draun who are also excellent magicians, so it is too hard to say one magician is better than the other
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Two thumbs up for Paul Gordon. Love everything he has ever done.
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