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fonda57 Inner circle chicago 3080 Posts 
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Doc Dalyes last is awesome. Nick Trost has a great variation whatever volume the purple book is, and it is also in the last Magic magazine, the big white one.
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NicholasD25 Veteran user 381 Posts
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On May 9, 2023, Pyppo100 wrote: It’s in Vernon’s More Inner Secrets of Card Magic. |
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warren Inner circle uk 4166 Posts
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On May 8, 2023, Bob G wrote: oops I gave the wrong link ha ha I'll post it again ....sorry to those that clicked the link. |
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warren Inner circle uk 4166 Posts
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Here's the correct link for my presentation of twisting the aces it starts at 1.28.....apologies for the wrong link.
https://youtu.be/klqUqMV9FY8 |
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On May 7, 2023, shaunluttin wrote: Very nice. Thanks.
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fonda57 Inner circle chicago 3080 Posts
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After doing those you do an eight card assembly. I would recommend Steve Reynolds from Speeding Bullets by Jon Racherbaumer
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martydoesmagic Inner circle Essex, UK 1669 Posts
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On May 7, 2023, Pyppo100 wrote: I recently wrote a blog article about this very topic (no video, I'm afraid): Twisting the Aces Three Ways In it, I discuss the three different presentations that I use. I'm a great advocate for having more than one presentation for the same trick. I also think Shaun's presentation works well and gets a great reaction from a live audience. Thanks for sharing your performance, Shaun. Like Warren, I've also played around with shaking the cards rather than twisting them. I also enjoyed Ed's rendition. The small action hiding a big one is a fun bit of nonsense. I also sometimes perform the trick with the Ace, Two, Three and Four of Diamonds to make the magic easier to follow. When I do this, I sometimes get a spectator to sign their name on the blank portion of the Four. I tell them that this transfers some of their personality to the card, which makes it impossible for me to twist it face up (this idea belongs to Simon Lovell). When they try, in their own hands, they're successful. I then transform the Two, Three and Four into the other three Aces and perform Dr Daley's Last Trick. Or I sometimes perform a trick of mine called Underambitious (you can learn this for FREE in my Ruseletter). Marty |
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Pyppo100 Regular user 166 Posts
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On May 12, 2023, martyjacobs wrote: Thank you for sharing these beautiful videos on your blog. Tamariz's performance is very impressive and amazing!! Another point that in my opinion needs to be justified is when it's me who turns the ace of clubs face down, unlike the other aces. What do you think? Thanks! |
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martydoesmagic Inner circle Essex, UK 1669 Posts
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On May 12, 2023, Pyppo100 wrote: Yes, the performances by Tamartiz and Ekaterina are great examples of how to perform the trick and involve your audience in the magical happenings. Regarding the Ace of Clubs turnover, I think there are two ways of dealing with it if you're using Vernon's original handling. The first is to perform it without comment, as a matter of fact. Or you can draw attention to it and even turn it into a joke, e.g., "Would you like to see the Ace of Clubs turn over visibly?" Suppose you're willing to modify Vernon's handling (heresy!). In that case, you can avoid the turnover by performing an extra ambitious card effect (I usually do this after performing "Underambitious" as a callback effect) or by introducing a discrepancy (something I saw Gerry Griffin do in one of his videos). I won't go into the details here, but I plan to write up the different handlings I use. I also want to produce a video tutorial for the Tongue Change, which allows you to perform the final turnover with the Ace of Spades out-jogged from the packet. Marty |
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Pyppo100 Regular user 166 Posts
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On May 12, 2023, martyjacobs wrote: I was thinking something like this, saying: "And even if I turn the ace of clubs face down (indicating it with the last card I have left in my hand before placing it on the bottom of the pile), the ace of diamonds will still turn face up"... ... but your suggestion is probably better. What do you think? PS - As soon as possible I will study your "Underambitious" effect. Thanks! |
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martydoesmagic Inner circle Essex, UK 1669 Posts
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Yes, that line works, even though it doesn't make much sense. I actually like lines like that. Use what works best for you and your style of presentation.
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Pyppo100 Regular user 166 Posts
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On May 12, 2023, martyjacobs wrote: You have a private message! ;-) Thanks |
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martydoesmagic Inner circle Essex, UK 1669 Posts
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I just replied!
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J Christensen Regular user 130 Posts
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I use this introduction: “A few years ago card magicians ran a contest to see who could do the most magic with just four cards. Would you like to see the winner?”
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Nikodemus Inner circle 1172 Posts
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I have never been comfortable with the "setup' moves. In particular, the second one. It just seems odd to me (unless suitably justified).
Going hand-in-hand with that, I don't like the typical script talking about different ways to turn over a card (eg. Michael Ammar, but also LOTS of others). I worry this draws attention to the funny move, even whilst trying to justify it. So I really like Shaun's approach because the motivation is to compare the backs of two cards. (And it also provides a coherent rationale for the rest of the routine. WHY does a magician want to turn over each card?). I think it is a stroke of genius to start by turning a card face down instead of face up. Ekatarina does the same thing in reverse. She shows the faces of two cards. The emphasis is on comparing the two cards, NOT on how she handles them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjwRXlgKtgw Also there is an internal logic to her presentation - the AS is the "heavy" Ace, so the only one that didn't "rise". It ends with the AS turning over in the spectator's hands. Paul Gordon starts by flipping over the Ace of Spades, and explaining that it is often known as the leader Ace. He then rotates his wrist to show the red Ace on the bottom of the packet, comparing the size of the pips. Having explained this, he is ready to start Twisting The Aces. So, as in the two examples above, his handling has an apparent purpose that does not focus on the fact that he is turning cards over. |
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Pyppo100 Regular user 166 Posts
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On May 23, 2023, Nikodemus wrote: I also studied Twistin the Aces from Roberto Giobbi's DVD "Card College 1&2": do you know it? Giobbi presents his own effect with the various ways of turning over a card, but the secret move is very natural... Thanks! |
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Nikodemus Inner circle 1172 Posts
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I have the books, but not the DVD.
Thinking a bit more about the handling of the setup, I have realised that the bottom card of the packet (typically either red Ace) will be the third one twisted; and the third card down (typically the Ace of Spades) is the last card twisted. So if you had two spectators, you could say "this will be your card, and this will be your card" as you perform the funny setup move. Then have one spec twist the 3rd card, and the other twist the final card. |
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balbec New user few 62 Posts
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3 complementary ideas : 1) Introduce it as the simplest possible experience : « you kwow what is the simplest think you can do with cards ? turning it over » 2) don't « twist » the card just flick/ move them, with the exact same rythm and hand positioning as in Vernon’s orgininal (cf. Bernard Bilis’s presentation) 3) Introduce a body / mind idea : « in the physical word, to turn over a card, you need at least… only in the mind can you just… » then for the fourth car « absolutly no physical move… just a pure thought… etc »
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balbec New user few 62 Posts
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Also, « less is more » may do wonder here. Less hand moves, less words, less noise, less everything… and the 4th card becomes an absolute miracle.
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