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badwords
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I want a steady supply of a roughing solution as good as SF or plastidip, but unfortunately I cannot order SF because that kind of aerosol won't ship to here (Japan). I can import plastidip but it is pretty expensive to do so.

So I am hunting for a local alternative. What kind of things can I look for to find potential alternatives? Plasti dp is like a spray on rubber grip right? So rubber sprays? Any other ideas?

Thanks in advance
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I know it's not a spray, and you didn't mention the exact use, but a roughing stick works really well, and shouldn't be that hard to get. In other threads people to mention other products they use. I think most are aerosol sprays.
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On Dec 23, 2023, Tom G wrote:
I know it's not a spray, and you didn't mention the exact use, but a roughing stick works really well, and shouldn't be that hard to get. In other threads people to mention other products they use. I think most are aerosol sprays.


Are roughing sticks more like a typical R&S on two cards and with the feel of a retail invisible deck? I'm hoping to find something that is only applied to one card and feels as good as SF or plasti dip.
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I've not heard any mention of other products that do what SF and PD do. Best I can think of is trying to search out a similar product online that can be delivered to you, or ask your local hardware dealer in your location.

I can't imagine that Japan would not have a product like PD, though under a different name/brand.
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I've not heard any mention of other products that do what SF and PD do. Best I can think of is trying to search out a similar product online that can be delivered to you, or ask your local hardware dealer in your location.

I can't imagine that Japan would not have a product like PD, though under a different name/brand.


That's what I am hoping to do. I was hoping someone had an idea of what I should look for. Rubber spray paint? Anti-slip spray? Particular chemicals? I ordered a rubber spray to try so we'll see about that.
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There are hobby and craft sprays that people use. Mounting or Testor's come to mind. Zig glue pens work also. As for the roughing stick, it only needs to be applied to one card. Like any of the products there will be some trial and error to get just what you want.
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There are hobby and craft sprays that people use. Mounting or Testor's come to mind. Zig glue pens work also. As for the roughing stick, it only needs to be applied to one card. Like any of the products there will be some trial and error to get just what you want.


Thanks! I'll try some of that.

I tried a Japanese brand of rubber spray paint, and it works, but after a few days of use some of the substance is starting to fall off the card on it's own.
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The roughing stick I bought from vanishing inc comes off similar to a crayon. Maybe a little less tacky and dense but it's close.
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Does anyone know what disadvantages (or advantages) crayons have compared to roughing sticks, e.g. when making an Invisble deck?
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To the OP, one thing you mentioned in your first post was the question: "Plasti Dip is like a spray on rubber grip right?"

Yes, as I understand it, that is *exactly* what it is - a spray on rubber-like grip. Using that specific description could be key as you ask around in Japan. Just a thought.
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To the OP, one thing you mentioned in your first post was the question: "Plasti Dip is like a spray on rubber grip right?"

Yes, as I understand it, that is *exactly* what it is - a spray on rubber-like grip. Using that specific description could be key as you ask around in Japan. Just a thought.


Thanks! That's what I was hoping to hear. I am having luck with some rubber sprays here but they flake off after a couple days. But there are plenty more to try. Thanks again!
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Have you taken a look at matte fixing spray for sketches? It goes on easily and makes a nice rough/smooth deck.
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Have you taken a look at matte fixing spray for sketches? It goes on easily and makes a nice rough/smooth deck.


I hadn't looked into that. I'll check it out when I get a chance. Thanks!
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Has anyone tried Flex Seal?
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Has anyone tried Flex Seal?


Yes. Where plasti-dip gives an even spray, Flex Seal has what appears to be little fibers of rubber. These fibers make for uneven coating. However, it still works for the principle we're applying it for. I'm guessing these fibers help build up the product quickly when there is a leak or something.

End result, looks different, still performs.
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Great to know. Thanks!
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If you do a search using Amazon.jp there are various choices although all Japanese, no Krylon. Some descriptions are in Kanji so unless you read kanji, hirakana etc??
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Try searching hair spray. I know I've heard it referenced as a R/S alternative (which is not the specific topic here), but I suppose it could be worth a try.
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If you do a search using Amazon.jp there are various choices although all Japanese, no Krylon. Some descriptions are in Kanji so unless you read kanji, hirakana etc??


That's what I've been doing and I do read the language. The rubber spray I mentioned before has been the best spray alternative so far but I still browse occasionally for new options.
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If you do a search using Amazon.jp there are various choices although all Japanese, no Krylon. Some descriptions are in Kanji so unless you read kanji, hirakana etc??


That's what I've been doing and I do read the language. The rubber spray I mentioned before has been the best spray alternative so far but I still browse occasionally for new options.


Ah ok good luck in your search! Domo
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