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On Jun 28, 2024, fingerjack wrote:
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On Jun 25, 2024, Merc Man wrote:


Just a quick point - for those who say "never show all the cards the same". That truly is complete and utter rubbish. Showing the cards as being the same IS the most powerful point of ANY Svengali Pack routine! It's what the Svengali Pack does!! Rest assured, people's reactions will tell you more than any such 'advice' on magic forums.


I suppose that (unnecessary) jab was directed at me. I think we are approaching it from two totally different perspectives. I wonder how many workers actually show all the cards to be alike when using a Svengali. Mark Lewis is Mark Lewis and his routine is not really my style. I prefer to use the Svengali as a stealth weapon, not as a one off effect by itself, which of course is okay if it suits you. There are thousands of effects worthy of consideration that do not involve showing all the cards alike. Hell, it’s the ultimate ACAAN. Besides, you think you are going to fool a bunch of laymen by wringing in a Svengali that matches someone’s deck and performing Mr. Lewis’s routine? Sure, they may be entertained, but I doubt if they would be mystified and most likely insist on having their original deck back. I truly think we can agree to compromise that it depends on the performer and the situation.


Can you do a true ACAAN with a Svengali or is just a very good CAAN?
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Ha. Admittedly, only a very good CAAN. I suppose if you were really clever, you could figure out a way to use it as makeshift ACAAN. Maybe you can carry 52 Svengali decks on you. See? I try to think, but nothing happens!
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On Jul 2, 2024, Mindcraft wrote:
Can you do a true ACAAN with a Svengali or is just a very good CAAN?

You can obviously do a version of ACAAN with a Svengali pack - added to which it would be a much more direct version than many of the abominations currently out there!

As for the question as to whether I would perform ACAAN. Thanks.....but no thanks. To my mind, it's a long-winded, often confusing, plot that is basically little more than a card reveal.

I put ACAAN up there alongside multi-phase Oil & Water routines. Or in other words 'Magic for Magicians' - that I personally would not inflict upon an audience.

Both plots literally make my eyes glaze over - with abject boredom. Smile
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My favourite uses a reverse Svengali sideways cut.
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The interesting question is WHY do people do that stupid display with the Svengali deck.


For people of my generation, it started with Marshall Brodein and those "TV Magic Cards" commercials. I still have my pack!


There is a GREAT trick in ANNEMAN'S CARD MAGIC that uses a Svengali, and no one, even magicians, will suspect you are using one. It's called "Criss-Cross" by Steve Simpson.
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