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I seem to recall Aldo Colombini had an elegant method. The cards all appear to be blank both sides, except for the named selection. The selection can be handled by the spectator, and so can [some of] the blanks. No R&S, just clever handling.


Draw a Blank:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xkiklk
That's a wonderful effect which is also in his Double Decker 2 ebook.
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Thanks for pointing out Aldo Columbini's Draw a Blank. I checked out Double Decker 2, and it is not in it. These effects are all two deck (double) effects. You can find it in his A Perfect 10 video. thanks again I like the effect.
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On Aug 29, 2024, countrymaven wrote:
Thanks for pointing out Aldo Columbini's Draw a Blank. I checked out Double Decker 2, and it is not in it. These effects are all two deck (double) effects. You can find it in his A Perfect 10 video. thanks again I like the effect.


From the audience's perspective, there is only one deck.
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Thanks for pointing out Aldo Columbini's Draw a Blank. I checked out Double Decker 2, and it is not in it. These effects are all two deck (double) effects. You can find it in his A Perfect 10 video. thanks again I like the effect.
It's on pg 14, I have the book. It's in there for obvious reasons.
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See also " Brainstormer" by Mark Leveridge:
https://www.markleveridge.co.uk/product/brainstormer/



And there's another beautiful routine with blank deck that I have to mention here. Alexander de Cova's, "Blank Thought Surprise" routine.


Effect:

The magician shows a deck of cards that consists of blank cards.
The cards have neither a face nor a back.
The magician takes one of the blank cards and writes something on it.
The card is folded and placed in the box from which the cards were taken.

A spectator thinks of a card.
The magician concentrates and then places one of the blank cards on the table.
He claims that this card is the card imagined by the spectator.

First the spectator should read the prediction.

It says:
"The picture of your imaginary card is visible in the mirror".

The magician takes the blank card and places it on the highly polished top of the box (or on a small mirror).
If the card is removed, the image of the freely imagined card appears in the mirror and on the card.
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That's a nice effect by Mark
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It's also perhaps worth mentioning Blizzard, which is basically the same presentation as Colombini's Draw A Blank, but a totally different method.
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The title of this thread is " Invisible Deck" with Blank cards, but actually it reminds me more of Brainwave. (The named card is the only one that doesn't belong in that deck)
The rest of the deck being blank does seem to add to the drama, eve though it is logically irrelevant. And it provides camouflage for some sneaky techniques.
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The title of this thread is " Invisible Deck" with Blank cards, but actually it reminds me more of Brainwave. (The named card is the only one that doesn't belong in that deck)
The rest of the deck being blank does seem to add to the drama, eve though it is logically irrelevant. And it provides camouflage for some sneaky techniques.
In that the card is shown face up, I would agree. The principle of the two are the same. And of course the Brainwave deck was based on Ultra Mental deck. I like the idea of a thought of card, in a sense, materializing in a blank deck. It works well with the presentation, which I like.
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Thanks Motown for correcting me. When I said, I checked out "Double Decker 2" by Aldo Columbini, I checked out the index from a website. I did not have the book with me. You are correct, from the full index at Lybrary, it is in that book, as well as on the video by Columini I mentioned above. It is getting harder and harder to own everything. This is a first for me, seeing a partial index of a book (although it was easy to assume it was a full index). hehe. this is really magicians helping magicians. Again, this is a great effect, and shows how brilliant Aldo Columbini was. It is truly sad I was not able to see him lecture or see him perform live.
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Thanks Motown for correcting me. When I said, I checked out "Double Decker 2" by Aldo Columbini, I checked out the index from a website. I did not have the book with me. You are correct, from the full index at Lybrary, it is in that book, as well as on the video by Columini I mentioned above. It is getting harder and harder to own everything. This is a first for me, seeing a partial index of a book (although it was easy to assume it was a full index). hehe. this is really magicians helping magicians. Again, this is a great effect, and shows how brilliant Aldo Columbini was. It is truly sad I was not able to see him lecture or see him perform live.
You missed a great one. I saw him perform and lecture many times of the years. His material is amazing.
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The title of this thread is " Invisible Deck" with Blank cards, but actually it reminds me more of Brainwave. (The named card is the only one that doesn't belong in that deck)
The rest of the deck being blank does seem to add to the drama, eve though it is logically irrelevant. And it provides camouflage for some sneaky techniques.
In that the card is shown face up, I would agree. The principle of the two are the same. And of course the Brainwave deck was based on Ultra Mental deck. I like the idea of a thought of card, in a sense, materializing in a blank deck. It works well with the presentation, which I like.


This has been argued back-and-forth before, but I'm going to say it anyway -
For ID the effect is that one card is reversed.
For BW the effect is that there is an odd-backed card that does not belong in that deck. Yes it is usually reversed - but that is really a consequence of the method. People have come up with other implementations in which the card is not reversed.
If the named card is the only one with a face in a deck full of blanks, that is more akin to BW. (It would actually be meaningless for one blank-faced card to be reversed in a deck of blank-faced cards. The odd card needs to have a face in order to identify it!)
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The title of this thread is " Invisible Deck" with Blank cards, but actually it reminds me more of Brainwave. (The named card is the only one that doesn't belong in that deck)
The rest of the deck being blank does seem to add to the drama, eve though it is logically irrelevant. And it provides camouflage for some sneaky techniques.
In that the card is shown face up, I would agree. The principle of the two are the same. And of course the Brainwave deck was based on Ultra Mental deck. I like the idea of a thought of card, in a sense, materializing in a blank deck. It works well with the presentation, which I like.


This has been argued back-and-forth before, but I'm going to say it anyway -
For ID the effect is that one card is reversed.
For BW the effect is that there is an odd-backed card that does not belong in that deck. Yes it is usually reversed - but that is really a consequence of the method. People have come up with other implementations in which the card is not reversed.
If the named card is the only one with a face in a deck full of blanks, that is more akin to BW. (It would actually be meaningless for one blank-faced card to be reversed in a deck of blank-faced cards. The odd card needs to have a face in order to identify it!)
I'm simply talking about the way each is uses the R&S principle.
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I'm simply talking about the way each is uses the R&S principle.


Hey Motown, yes I know you are talking about how the R&S is used.
I admit I am being a bit pedantic Smile Magicians seem to get very focused on whether the card is face-up or face-down, because we look at it in terms of The Method. But that's not what matters to spectators, who experience The Effect.
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In my opinion it is much stronger, if the blank cards have backs. You can build up the final climax much better. If both sides are blank, the chosen card will just be the one printed. That's it. If you have backs, you can spread the deck face down and the thought of card is the only one face up. Then you can go further, that it is not only the only one face up, it is also be the only one with a different back and finally, it is also the only one with a printed face while all the others are blank.

In my version, you could hand out the deck for inspection or even give it away as souvenir.

Some additional thoughts: The card does not necessarily need to be a thought of card. The spectators only need to believe it was a thought of card. Dani DaOrtiz has some truly amazing ideas and methods, how to achieve that.

Another idea would be, that the card is thought of, but the magician knows the card bevor the spectator does. Wich gives you the time to the work, bevor the heat is on.

Another cool idea is to f*rce the card with an invisible deck, where the spectator has the feeling of freely chose a card out of nothing, while the card box is lying on the table all the time with everything already done. Dani DaOrtiz also once offered his method how to achieve that.

I know, this is about "Gaffed and Funky", but I just wanted to point out, that you can perform the effect in other ways.
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In my opinion it is much stronger, if the blank cards have backs. You can build up the final climax much better. If both sides are blank, the chosen card will just be the one printed. That's it. If you have backs, you can spread the deck face down and the thought of card is the only one face up. Then you can go further, that it is not only the only one face up, it is also be the only one with a different back and finally, it is also the only one with a printed face while all the others are blank.

In my version, you could hand out the deck for inspection or even give it away as souvenir.

Some additional thoughts: The card does not necessarily need to be a thought of card. The spectators only need to believe it was a thought of card. Dani DaOrtiz has some truly amazing ideas and methods, how to achieve that.

Another idea would be, that the card is thought of, but the magician knows the card bevor the spectator does. Wich gives you the time to the work, bevor the heat is on.

Another cool idea is to f*rce the card with an invisible deck, where the spectator has the feeling of freely chose a card out of nothing, while the card box is lying on the table all the time with everything already done. Dani DaOrtiz also once offered his method how to achieve that.

I know, this is about "Gaffed and Funky", but I just wanted to point out, that you can perform the effect in other ways.



Wow - a lot of interesting ideas!

Not sure how you would use an Invisible Deck for forcing. Are you thinking of a Pop Eyed Popper Deck?
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In my opinion it is much stronger, if the blank cards have backs. You can build up the final climax much better. If both sides are blank, the chosen card will just be the one printed. That's it. If you have backs, you can spread the deck face down and the thought of card is the only one face up. Then you can go further, that it is not only the only one face up, it is also be the only one with a different back and finally, it is also the only one with a printed face while all the others are blank.

In my version, you could hand out the deck for inspection or even give it away as souvenir.

Some additional thoughts: The card does not necessarily need to be a thought of card. The spectators only need to believe it was a thought of card. Dani DaOrtiz has some truly amazing ideas and methods, how to achieve that.

Another idea would be, that the card is thought of, but the magician knows the card bevor the spectator does. Wich gives you the time to the work, bevor the heat is on.

Another cool idea is to f*rce the card with an invisible deck, where the spectator has the feeling of freely chose a card out of nothing, while the card box is lying on the table all the time with everything already done. Dani DaOrtiz also once offered his method how to achieve that.

I know, this is about "Gaffed and Funky", but I just wanted to point out, that you can perform the effect in other ways.
Personally, I like the all blank deck, especially in the context of Martin's presentation.
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Wow - a lot of interesting ideas!

Not sure how you would use an Invisible Deck for forcing. Are you thinking of a Pop Eyed Popper Deck? [/quote]


I don't remember on wich DVD it was but on one of them Dani DaOrtiz used an invisible or imaginary deck for the time f*rce. He spread "the cards" from hand to hand, naming them one by one and the spectator just points at one of them "freely", "whenever" he likes.

Invisible Deck in this context means literally invisible.
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I don't remember on wich DVD it was but on one of them Dani DaOrtiz used an invisible or imaginary deck for the time f*rce. He spread "the cards" from hand to hand, naming them one by one and the spectator just points at one of them "freely", "whenever" he likes.

Invisible Deck in this context means literally invisible.


Thanks for sharing that.
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