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davidredfearn_(794x800)_(50x50).jpg "View Profile"){kind=avatar} Loyal user London 205 Posts 
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On Dec 3, 2024, GeraintClarke wrote: It's awesome thanks. DR |
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Lonnie_Lyerla Special user 519 Posts
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For those we’re having issues with the app crashing, I believe it was an issue with the iOS 17. ( at least for one of my phones that was the case ) while iOS 18 works perfectly. I also seen that there was an update ready as of yesterday when I checked. I bought this like a lot of others for the sale 50% off. Absolutely a keeper. This is just fun to play with. The fact that you can create your own videos adds to this already awesome app. My only complaint, if I can even call it that. Would be able to control the speed of how fast and slow the card passes by and possibly some variations of the cards movement. Outside of those minor things I have been slaying with this. If this were released earlier in the year it would be a TOTY candidate imo. Bravo G and Ellusionist.
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x3magic New user 65 Posts
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Can this work with any brands of cards? Even UNO game cards for example?
Believe, and the magic will follow
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magicmind Inner circle My fence has 20, 3481 Posts
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I am loving this. The options seem endless. Great Release from E and Les French Twins!
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GeraintClarke Special user 856 Posts
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Hey all,
Just wanted to jump on here. You may notice your appearing lollipop gimmick comes in the shipping box separately. This is not a real, free lollipop that’s just thrown in the box for Xmas. It’s a gimmick you need. So make sure you check all the bubble wrap for that before you toss the packaging. Just FYI. Because our warehouse staff thought it was a real lollipop when packing. Didn’t want others to make the same mistake or toss it out. Have a great weekend, - G |
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Xcath1 Inner circle 3186 Posts
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Wrong thread?
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GeraintClarke Special user 856 Posts
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On Dec 7, 2024, Xcath1 wrote: Yes. I had two tabs open on my phone. My bad. |
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brandon90 Special user Iowa 740 Posts
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On Dec 7, 2024, GeraintClarke wrote: Lol. I was confused and wondering “where’s my lollipop?” |
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Lonnie_Lyerla Special user 519 Posts
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Performed this twice yesterday with decent reactions. However I did have someone want to inspect the camera a little more so I let them basically do what ever hand gesture they wanted to do. Three up a few fingers and got the “hmm” from them. I was interested in what they were hmm’ing about and I did t want to bring any heat to the phone. They actually offered an explanation during the conversation. They said they thought it was a recording of a card but once they were able to see their own hand in the camera the new it wasn’t. It was also mentioned that the reason they thought that was because it just looked kind of off to them. It was still a success. But after that happened I started to think “ I know exactly what they’re talking about. In some cases it doesn’t come off as realistic when passing by. So I’m wondering if there’s going to be an update to having more options on the way the card looks passing and control of the speed in which it passes by.
Also, since the update they’ve added a couple of extra things. The spread cards is not going to pass with a lot of us considering our hands don’t look anything like that. Lol. I’m sure I could make a prerecorded video but in my mind that defeats the the whole purpose of the original reason I bought the app. Patrick’s moving pips is a nice little add. I know G is out here posting random things in random places these days ( that’s just a joke brother ) but I’m wondering if he can answer if there will be any future updates to having more control of the time it takes for the cats to pass and if there’s going to be any additional features that cover realism of the cards in the presets. Thanks |
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Xcath1 Inner circle 3186 Posts
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I bought this at the intro price and it’s fun but at the end of the day any trick that obviously involves technology is going to be suspect especially as people know what it a possible today. That is my opinion at any rate
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Roberto W Inner circle 1362 Posts
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It’s a difficult one re what impresses people, what people find ‘clever’ and magical as everyone’s interpretation and thinking is different re lay people. The problem we have here especially in the last 2 posts which I can imagine and agree with is, spectators will fundamentally just put this down to a clever app you are using. That may sound obvious and you would like to think the double lift at the beginning will help layer the overall effect, but just feel the overall left impression and thoughts will just be “yeah it looked cool, but obviously was just like a clever app on his phone that changed the card”. Which is fine if you don’t mind people thinking that, but the ones hoping they don’t think then you will be better off simply imo just performing a standard double lift and the card changing in their hands - which as we know that simple move (if performed well) gets freak out reactions.
With tech in general being as clever as advanced as it is, people are not stupid and people know for fun how clever apps are as people have downloaded ones themselves for fun and entertainment. Take for example a filter app to make you look old (for fun). They know the app cleverly can make you look different to who you are. You can move about, talk etc and the app still cleverly applies that filter - this is kinda the same in their eyes where a filtered card was overlayed. With phone magic (using your phone especially) it’s now going from a dout in their minds, to an obvious whenever something clever is done using your phone. This is no difference. So as clever as it looks and is it all depends on what you want your audience to think and be impressed with. Personally I would rather my audience be impressed with a double lift that changed in their hands that they were holding on to (knowing the reactions we get and giving me credit for slight of hand), than at the end people just talking as you walk away and give your phone credibility for using a clever app. Will people going into it that much remember you actually showed them the same card to begin as on screen, then it changed and then you were holding a different card, maybe. But just felt the overall impression will be the phone changed the card as you waved it back and forth. But like everything if people are getting the reactions they want and happy with it then it’s all good, just don’t be disappointed if you are getting the mediocre reactions because the audience will give your phone and clever app the credit after it and imo not really you. |
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PatrickGregoire Inner circle 2445 Posts
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I agree, most people will assume it's augmented reality or a pre-shot video. That's why the best use of this app, in my opinion, is for stage when you can project your screen to the audience. They very briefly go over the basic concept in the tutorial but you can accomplish some incredible things that have nothing to do with waving a card over your phone and changing it.
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curtiswallen Regular user NY 134 Posts
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I don't own the app, nor do I plan to buy it, but when I read an earlier post about using it for the Invisible Palm I got sort of excited about the idea. Seems like it would be an effective enhancement for the final phase.
They're still going to suspect camera tricks, but I think applied to the Invisible Palm they have less of a direct explanation. The fourth card still appears out of your empty hand. When it's just a color change, it's an easier explanation re: augmented reality, etc. |
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Roberto W Inner circle 1362 Posts
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I think we can dress it up as much as we like, but fundamentally spectators will just think like I said “oh cool, clever app” so you as the magician won’t really be taking the credit as they will just remember and talk about the ‘app’ doing the work - which imo really lets down the credibility of the performer doing any work, before, during or after (to accomplish what you need to do) as to them it will be the app/phone getting credit - not you.
Agree with Patrick and as the design is very clever, would have to put it into more or a better premise effect and use for it than the basic card change. |
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ArtIn Inner circle 1810 Posts
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I wanted to buy this but apps haven’t been treated greatly by E in the past.
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magicmind Inner circle My fence has 20, 3481 Posts
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On Dec 8, 2024, Roberto W wrote: maybe on stage with a borrowed bill and spec. You show the audience, via live feed to the big screen, a serial number of a borrowed bill? This is covered in the tutorial and is a fantastic use of this. |
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Zuko_magic New user 57 Posts
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On Dec 8, 2024, Roberto W wrote: People are not dumb though, they saw the actual card change, not just on camera. They know an app can’t really make a card change and it’s obvious it’s the magician. |
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GeraintClarke Special user 856 Posts
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On Dec 10, 2024, ArtIn wrote: Can I ask how? |
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GeraintClarke Special user 856 Posts
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On Dec 10, 2024, Zuko_magic wrote: I agree with you. If the card didn't change in real life, they could dismiss it as a fun tech trick. But they see the card is the 6 of clubs (for example) in real life, it changes on screen and then you give them the card to now show that it's their signed card. Mark Lemon & Pete Turner have this rule for consulting that the technology can't be the input and reveal (otherwise people will say its tech) - so as much as I don't like app magic (and wrote a blog on it) what drew me to below was that the phone is not necessarily used to do anything to the card. The card is reveal before the change, the card is real after the change. So the phone can't really be blamed for creating a camera trick. - G |
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ArtIn Inner circle 1810 Posts
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On Dec 10, 2024, GeraintClarke wrote: I remember missing updates and support for Picasso, Cognito and Cipher. |
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