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Pyppo100 Loyal user 236 Posts 
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I like this performance by Giobbi.. but I always fear that the spectator, even involuntarily, could turn the coin... what do you think?
https://youtu.be/MTNf_Rs2yfo?si=_wyA7v4QWbmFZomN Thanks! Best regards |
BarryFernelius Inner circle Still learning, even though I've made 2590 Posts
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That's a legitimate concern. You can't completely eliminate the risk, but you can minimize it. First and foremost, before you have the spectator place the coin on the cards, handle the coin yourself and demonstrate exactly what you want them to do. Then, place the coin on their side of the spread, close to the cards, so that their path of least resistance is to do exactly what you want them to do. Second, use a thick coin so that it's easy to handle it in the correct way. Third, pick a spectator helper who's the type of person who can follow instructions carefully.
One more thing. In Artful Deceptions, Allan Zola Kronzek has an excellent handling of this effect called Destiny, Chance, and Free Will. Allan's handling is superior to Giobbi's Lucky Coin, and is worthy of your serious study.
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Kaliix Inner circle Connecticut 2114 Posts
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In Ultra Lucky Coin, Eric Tait uses a gimmicked poker chip instead of a coin. Because the chip is supposed to look the same on both sides, a casual turnover move in the hand shows both sides of the chip to be the same. This version also includes a kicker ending as the chip changes to the selected card just like in the Giobbi version. Food for thought...
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Claudio Inner circle Europe 2042 Posts
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On Dec 8, 2024, Pyppo100 wrote: Here's an easy and safe handling: Once you've spread the cards (from left to right as in the demo), pick up the coin and drop it on top of the rightmost card and tell the spectator that you want them to put their index on top of the coin and glide it over the spread and stop whenever they want. You can demo the sliding action yourself first, if you wish. There's zero risk of them lifting the coin and the whole sequence looks natural, in my opinion. |
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Pyppo100 Loyal user 236 Posts
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On Dec 9, 2024, Claudio wrote: Thanks, nice suggestion... another alternative.... could be the magician holding the coin up (like in the video) instead of the spectator... and then you could have the spectator say "stop" as the magician passes with the coin up along the card tape... what do you think? Thanks! Best regards |
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qkeli Special user paris,france 796 Posts
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Helder Guimarães has a nice handling published in one his release and Roberto Giobbi has shared an excellent handling in his last newsletter, avoiding the use of a coin ????
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Micha-el Regular user 131 Posts
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Benjamin Barnes has a very nice version of this trick on his Penguin Live Lecture. He models the use of the coin (how to hold it and drop it) during a lead-in trick where he finds a spectators card. His spectator management during the trick when the spectator drops the coin is excellent. If you are interested in this trick I think his method is worth studying.
The Helder Guimarães version, "Extending the Luck" can be found in the August 2017 Genii Magazine. Barry Moran |
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motown Inner circle Atlanta by way of Detroit 6452 Posts
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Quote: Picking the right spectator is key.On Dec 9, 2024, BarryFernelius wrote:
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motown Inner circle Atlanta by way of Detroit 6452 Posts
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Quote: It's a nice added bonus for the gag part.On Dec 9, 2024, Kaliix wrote:
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motown Inner circle Atlanta by way of Detroit 6452 Posts
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Quote: Roberto always has wonderful presentation ideas.On Dec 8, 2024, Pyppo100 wrote:
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motown Inner circle Atlanta by way of Detroit 6452 Posts
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Quote: I looked this up in Card College along with another version in Sam Schwartz's book - The Magic of Sam Schwartz. It was originally published in Kabbala (1971).
On Dec 8, 2024, Pyppo100 wrote: His version used an egg timer. I was surprised that neither book had a reference/credit for Eddie Fields' Dropsy Diddle in Artful Dodges of Eddie Fields/The Greater Artful Dodges of Eddie Fields.
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JoeHohman Special user Erie 746 Posts
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There are some good suggestions here. Having said that, and I don't mean to be a party-pooper, but isn't this supposed to be the forum for self-working effects? Between the f**ce and the t** ch****, I don't think of this as a self-worker....
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motown Inner circle Atlanta by way of Detroit 6452 Posts
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Quote: Yes, you're exactly right. This is not self-working or semi-automatic. In addition to what you've already mentioned, it requires good audience management.On Mar 25, 2025, JoeHohman wrote:
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motown Inner circle Atlanta by way of Detroit 6452 Posts
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Paul Diamond had a nice approach to Dropsy Diddle that was published in the February 1997 issue of Magic Magazine called The Lighter Side.
I like how he uses the spectator to hold the card and object, which in his case is a lighter. Something you might have on you.
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Nikodemus Inner circle 1431 Posts
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I noticed that Giobbi asked the spectator to "drop" the coin wherever they like. I would say "place" the coin.
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obsidian52 Elite user United States 473 Posts
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I understand the trick....I don't understand how he controls the coin drop....Is there a tutorial?
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motown Inner circle Atlanta by way of Detroit 6452 Posts
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If you have Giobbi's Card College series, it's written up in volume 1.
Depending on your level of experience with card magic you should be able to understand how the selected card is ultimately found by watching the video performance. Watch it all the way to the end.
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