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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 3276 Posts
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Was Houdini bad at magic, or do we just think he was because Dai Vernon said so?
I adore The Professor, but let's be real- he was kind of a smack talker. Vernon said Houdini only did escapes, which is objectively false. He reinvented himself from a vaudeville card manipulator to escape artist, stage magician, and doing his spiritualism exposees. He most likely wasn't as good at close-up as Vernon, but who was? Not too many, I'd guess. But did he entertain enough people with his magic to make his living off of it? Undoubtedly. I don't think you become the most famous magician in history by being "terrible" at it. This is just my opinion and none of us were there: I think Vernon and Houdini had very different specialties and a clash of personalities. I think they were both talented. Great at what they were great at. Flawed like any other humans. And I think Houdini was probably at least a pretty good magician. They both have my eternal respect and gratitude as "modern" pioneers of the art. There are a lot more fine points to it, but there's an overview of my general impressions after many years of reading about both of them.
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Leo H Inner circle 1520 Posts
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Houdini had that charisma we associate with big stars. Everything else fell into place. He was a good stage magician who knew how to handle a large audience and put them in the palm of his hand. Vernon was well acquainted with Houdini and saw his ugly side, his big ego, his mistreatment of Sam Margules, his pushy persona, and so on.
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 3276 Posts
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I think there might have been some karmic backlash to Houdini's heel turn against Robert-Houdin too.
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Leo H Inner circle 1520 Posts
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Well there was real backlash from the Unmasking book, not just karmatic. Magicians in France felt insulted. David Devant protested that not only was Houdin unmasked, every rag was torn off his back. It was a book that started out as a history of magic, and then veered off course to an attack on Robert-Houdin. The ultimate karmatic whiplash was Houdini's own belief that he could withstand bodily injuries better than anybody. He committed the mortal sin of buying into his own legend. He refused to immediately check into the hospital when Dr. Dretzka diagnosed appendicitis.
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Rainboguy Inner circle 1924 Posts
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Let us not forget one simple thing:
HOUDINI WAS THE WORLD'S FIRST SUPERSTAR! WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU? |
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27463 Posts
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Check out the report about his card manipulations from the magic club meeting.
Also, check out his comment about the cups and balls. We all know his routine, right? No? hmmm… When Houdini became a “self liberator” he hit his stride and met the market - very impressive. The publicity about spiritualism was not such a great help for him as magician but it was part of that time in show business. Randi did an okay escape act which echos what Houdini did fifty years earlier. The attitude of a showman from back then is also evident in Harry Loraine’s work. So there’s some reference material, even if it’s a generation away from what you probably want to know. Remember, myths are for kids ![]()
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 3276 Posts
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On Feb 22, 2026, Jonathan Townsend wrote: Are they, though? I remember a lot of not very kid friendly stuff in those mythology books
Doug Henning didn't pretty well with his interpretations of Houdini stuff. The Pendragons made their whole career off their version of the substitution trunk. We can all find SOMETHING to confirm our bias. I just think the truth is somewhere in between. But I may very well be entirely wrong, which I'm okay with.
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 3276 Posts
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*did
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27463 Posts
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You don’t need to read too much between the lines to understand Houdini’s skillset was not centered on finesse and technical excellence in sleight of hand.
We don’t often read about Vernon doing escapes and keeping audiences in suspense.
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Leo H Inner circle 1520 Posts
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Hey Jonathan--where is that report published about Houdini's card manipulations? Is it in the Sphinx? Although Houdini was a pretty good card manipulator for stage work, it does appear that his technical finesse for close up work wasn't up to scratch.
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