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Wizard Magic Review (June 3rd, 2026) gave The Void, 95 and 89 percent. They touched on it's capabilities to help perform Mizer's Dream style of routines with continuous productions.
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One thing that concerns me is a point mentioned in a couple of reviews - the clear plastic is likely to get scratched. While keeping it with keys is avoidable, I assume that coins would scratch it too.


Yes, as I mentioned earlier I will buy or fashion a something to protect it.


Maybe you could also cut a thin screen protector to size?
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One thing that concerns me is a point mentioned in a couple of reviews - the clear plastic is likely to get scratched. While keeping it with keys is avoidable, I assume that coins would scratch it too.


Yes, as I mentioned earlier I will buy or fashion a something to protect it.


If you're using it with coins you need to protect the inside too.
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I do agree that I think it works better with Mentalism than cards. A folded blank billet that doesn’t have any heat on it is a little easier to switch than the folded card that they will already assume is their card.

I could also see making this a picture of something (like a beach to look like a souvenir keychain) that has the prediction on the back.

Madison


The thing is within mentalism there have been so many methods for switching an openly displayed card that don't use any tools. A billet left openly displayed can be switched with so many in the hands methods or else things like an Ostin clip that feel fairer and can be left in a spectators hands for much of a routine. Methods that feel more organic than a keyring that looks like no other.


Despite being familiar with many “in-the-hands” approaches such as Paperclipped, the many from Switch-Craft encyclopedia, various versions by Annemann, Corinda, Osterlind, Losa, Taylor, Calabrese & others, as well as having explored my own ideas, I still find this gimmick quite intriguing. Since the gimmick is transparent (!), concealing something while openly displaying both hands appears impossible. However, this method makes exactly that possible. It’s this degree of openness that I find especially fascinating.


I'm comfortable enough with an unfolding peek to do it surrounded and my hands appear empty and I can do a very open display of the billet with it not really leaving sight. Nothing to really inspect after. The review on everything magic pro said several times this is a really bad angle to be doing this. It was filmed straight on, the angle we all generally perform at. Since the focus is on the keyring people are probably going to want to inspect it in an up close situation. I've not seen any discussion of how inspectable the prop is. This review talks about one spectator questioning the gimmick. The spectator know that the prop has done the magic, so I'd be interested to hear whether it can be checked after. It seems like a fun toy, but not convinced it's offering anything better than I can do with sleight of hand.

The everything magic pro review.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDGq6rHZTIc
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I think this discussion is overlooking the role of misdirection.
Opening the gimmick while the hand is moving looks very different from what Scott demonstrates or what’s shown in the trailer (or generally on video!).
If you’re not using it for coin work, the gimmick is completely examinable.
I’m not claiming it’s some kind of killer pro-level utility, but it’s genuinely fun to play around with and explore.
When the gimmick sits in the palm, there’s virtually nothing to see under the right conditions.
At least for my hands, the gimmicks fit extremely well.
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I’ve been using the void for a few months now and I can confirm that it is very good

I think the Key thing is its versatility. Yes, you can use it for a mystery box however there is so much more than you can do as well.

Honestly, the switch is completely imperceptible, especially when performed with a tiny amount of misdirection. I have a few uses for it that I will be sharing on my channel of the coming weeks, but I can highly recommend it.

A few people have referenced Scott’s review. I haven’t seen it because I tend not to watch his reviews. However, it’s worth mentioning that this short was published by him straight after the Blackpool Magic convention. I’m not saying he has anything against Lloyd or that he would be biased in any way but it certainly an odd thing to post and seems to serve no purpose on a review channel.

https://youtube.com/shorts/N8rQUJg5mGk?si=i8P1OuyF6FT6s94N

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However, it’s worth mentioning that this short was published by him straight after the Blackpool Magic convention.

I’m not saying he has anything against Lloyd or that he would be biased in any way bbut it certainly an odd thing to post and seems to serve no purpose on a review channel.

https://youtube.com/shorts/N8rQUJg5mGk?si=i8P1OuyF6FT6s94N

Cheers

Craig


So you're "not saying" but still casting aspersions? C'mon Craig, you can't have it both ways in the same post. Sometimes it's best to refrain from posting without facts.

Cheers!


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On Jun 6, 2026, mindmagic wrote:
One thing that concerns me is a point mentioned in a couple of reviews - the clear plastic is likely to get scratched. While keeping it with keys is avoidable, I assume that coins would scratch it too.


Yes, as I mentioned earlier I will buy or fashion a something to protect it.


If you're using it with coins you need to protect the inside too.
no need to to worry abut that. A specific gimmick gets added to it.
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On Jun 7, 2026, Craig Petty wrote:
I’ve been using the void for a few months now and I can confirm that it is very good

I think the Key thing is its versatility. Yes, you can use it for a mystery box however there is so much more than you can do as well.

Honestly, the switch is completely imperceptible, especially when performed with a tiny amount of misdirection. I have a few uses for it that I will be sharing on my channel of the coming weeks, but I can highly recommend it.

A few people have referenced Scott’s review. I haven’t seen it because I tend not to watch his reviews. However, it’s worth mentioning that this short was published by him straight after the Blackpool Magic convention. I’m not saying he has anything against Lloyd or that he would be biased in any way but it certainly an odd thing to post and seems to serve no purpose on a review channel.

https://youtube.com/shorts/N8rQUJg5mGk?si=i8P1OuyF6FT6s94N

Cheers

Craig


Scott is very positive about this. A few comments on angles, durability that the plastic will probably wear and make it less visible with use. But on the whole I'd say he recommends it as something fun to play with.
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As mentioned above, Scott showed the switch in his review. I’m referring only to that specific moment and its technical execution.
Otherwise, he spoke very positively about it, although he also frequently mentions in the comments that it’s not really for him.
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How different is this from FOB by David Penn? Does it use the same methods?

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It does not use the same method has FOB.
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Okay, just my 2 cents for what it's worth about 2 cents....I'm liking the void mostly because it looks like a very cool Every Day Carry (EDC) BUT it alsio looks very very sleight heavy, lotys of Knickle busting..I can do a force..I'm fairly well with tioming and misdirection BUT I CAN NOT do a mercury fold...and the misdirection with a merdury fold, so I guess I'll save my money...
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MagiCal52 just score a card and then force it and that will solve the biggest issue you have.
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I agree with Warren, I have trouble with the MCF but have an entire deck of half red backed and half blue backed pre scored cards. You could also control the selection to the top and go behind your back with the deck and “try to find” the card and just MCF it on top of the deck and come out with the folded card already hidden in your hand.
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Okay, just my 2 cents for what it's worth about 2 cents....I'm liking the void mostly because it looks like a very cool Every Day Carry (EDC) BUT it alsio looks very very sleight heavy, lotys of Knickle busting..I can do a force..I'm fairly well with tioming and misdirection BUT I CAN NOT do a mercury fold...and the misdirection with a merdury fold, so I guess I'll save my money...


There are many other types of effects that can be performed with it. Maybe I will get two of them and do a Void Monte.
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Unpopular opinion, but it looks like a "thing" made only to do a "thing" for the thing's purpose. In other words, it only exists to justify itself, sort of giving a solution to a problem we made in the first place, then retro-fitted to make it an "EDC".

And yes, we have many things like this. I don't like most of them.

That said, I also detest double turnovers, double lifts (you'll never convince me they look fine), elmsley counts, etc. Yet legends use them well. So what do I know?

I also hate the mystery card box (or whatever) plot. I'm also very bad at a MCF. I also am lazy and hate heavy procedure. I used to enjoy cannibal kings, too. Now that's just a "cute trick" to me. A trick.

Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.

So on second thought, maybe you really should ignore me.

Still this looks like a tool built to do something someone wouldn't normally carry without doing a trick with it. "Hey man! Where'd you get that.... photo holder? or ... whatever it is? I want to use it on MY keychain for.... well, I dunno. But I want one. Can it hold a vape you think? Otherwise I'll print a picture with my kids, cut it down to size, stick it in there, that way I can use my lockscreen for something else."
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