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hagemagic
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Trying to build an open top table...

1. Anyone know where to buy one pre-made?

2. Anyone know where to find a rolling table base?

3. Anyone ever built one?

I know Chalet has one called the Laflin Table. This is similar to what I'm putting together. http://www.chaletmagic.com
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I am in the process of building some with tripod bases and folding legs for portability. I have not found any ready-to-purchase tables of this type that I like, so I'm making some. Chalet does have rolling bases, and I'll bet there are other illusion builders that have them.

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I've never built an open top table.

Another source of an open top table are the ten second tables sold by David Charvet: http://hometown.aol.com/dcstudios/tables.html

Also, there may be plans in Micky Hades' book, "The New Make-up of Magic." He has plans for several tables in that book.

Don't forget that there are two table books by Eugene Gloye. Here is one source for these older softcover books: http://www.magicstor.com/files/bookt.htm

Dancing Spring Magic makes some tables and bases that are very nice, and are sold through some dealers: http://www.dancingspringmagic.com/tables_indx.htm

I think it is a better design than a Eureka Table Base. I have a Eureka, but don't have one of these.

Chalet also makes just the base/pedestal for side tables: http://www.dennymagic.com/cgi-bin/hazel.......m=005135

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Open Top Table = a box---------------cheers! Jimo
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You are correct Jimo...However, after searching for just the right box and not finding one, I decided to build my own.

I still think I can find or build a rolling table base for less than $125, which is how much they sell for on some sites. I'll keep looking at thrift stores for rolling table bases and other suitable bases.
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Exactly, just make a box without a top. Now you experiment adding outrigger shelves, and shelves that flip up over the top and such.

Make mockups out of cardboard and then go from there.
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I'm designing my table to be like the Chalet Laflin table with some changes.

1. The top slides out one side and is a solid shelf.

2. I made my box 18" square and 11" inches deep. This configuration seems to provide the most storage/performing space for me.

Now I still have to figure out the base...hmmm.
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I used a restaurant tray holder. You know the ones that pop open when they bring it to your table? It folds up with just a couple of straps on top. You can get them from a restaurant supply store for about $20. They work great. You can cover the box with "car trunk fleece". The stuff that speaker boxes and the lining of car trunks have. Spread on some contact cement. Let it dry and then cover it with the "carpet". It works great, looks good and takes a little time, but is SO much cheaper! I hope if I ever pay $500 for a box someone comes by and kicks my #*$ cheers! Jimeuax
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This may sound like a silly question, but did you look through the threads (even older ones) in the "Where to put it all..." section of the Café for information about tables and parts?

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Jimo,

I think the speaker covering is called Ozite. It is available in black and it used to come in gray.

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The speaker box/trunk liner material is a non-woven poly material that's sold in a number of colours; it's suitable for table tops (although pilling can be a problem), doesn't mind getting wet (it's synthetic), and it's pretty inexpensive (10.50/yd of 72" wide stuff).

I use the fluffier kind for table tops (helps keep balls and so forth from rolling) and the shorter-nap material for the suitcase tables I build. I just covered one such table with the maroon cloth and brother, it looks like a million.

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The Laflin Table is a modified Deep Bin Table as illustrated in Table Book II. However, I believe the Gene Gloye table would be more stable and stronger. The Laflin table would require a thicker base to accomodate the flange that would be required to attach it to the base. I would use channeling for holding the top in place, a piece of sheet metal bent in C-shape fashion for the top to run back and forth in with a lip that attaches inside the box. When finished it would look like the letter p with a void at the back of the looped part. I would make the box 9.5 inches deep to allow the use of a single 1X10 8' long to create the outside of the box and complete the table with 1/4" or 3/8" plywood.

Good luck with your table design.

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Wow these are all very helpful tips and tricks. Keep them coming. I'm checking the restaurant supply place right now...
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If you find a good source for the restaurant tray holder, will you let us know?

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This is a great topic I just built three table of my own. I picked up a small trunk that is about the 3rd size of a large truck. It is 16" tall, 16" wide and 12" deep. I took the top off and mounted 4 casters under the lid. The hinges pins are now two cater key type pins. As for the pole I used a painter pole that telescopes. I cut the end off a paint roller and mounted it in a 1x4 inside the box(drilled a hole and expoxied it in place) I cut the pole to about 12" and it telescopes up to 24" If you get a 3/4" EMT (Electrical) connector it will fit on the painters pole. Then I mounted a "Bell Box" (an outdoor electraical box) with a 3/4" hub in the lid.

Then end result is I have a box that I can take the lid off and set it on the floor with rollers and a pole (that fits inside the box for storage) to hold the box up to hight.

Box from Target $16.00
Painter pole 2' to 6'from home depot 8.00
four casters home depot 4.00 each
bolts to hold casters in place home depot .15 each 1/4 20's by 1" plus the nuts
weather proof electrical box 3/4" hub 4.00
3/4" compression type electrical connector bag of 5 home depot 1.50
Painters roller home depot 3.00
1 x 4 wood home depot @ 2.00 plus some drywall screws

so for about 50.00 I made a great open box table that packs away.
I have also used the black file boxes from office max.
if you would like pics of my tables let me know and I can email them to you.
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Bill -

It sounds like you built a home-made "10 Second Table." Interesting.

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Hi Bill:

How long are you going to keep the avatar in honor of Peter.

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I did make a 10 second table (homemade) I saw the table from a school show I have and later learned (after making mine) it was the ten second table. The Peter picture, I still crack myself up when I see it and I need a good chuckle every nw and then.
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Ozite is great! Just covered the table/box. It looks great.

I'm still working on the base. Not sure what I'm going to use yet. Lot of great ideas here, but I haven't decided on the base yet.

Chris
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Ever heard of a couch?
With the right glue you can use any durable material.
I covered a guitar effects pedal board with blue jean fabric.

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