I don't think anyone is watching this thread much any more, which is fair enough.

If anyone out there is doing Sherlock, try starting with the stack in reverse order, then at the conclusion of the trick you will be counting upwards instead of backwards. I have got quite used to counting the stack numbers backwards for this trick, but I reckon counting up is a bit easier on the brain at the key time. During this last phase you really have to focus on following the numbers and pattering naturally, all at the same time.

I hope that helps someone out there in the ether.

Thank you will certainly give that a go. Leaves me in position to do my favourite ACAAN which is Allan Ackermans version which needs the stack in reverse order which makes the calculations a piece of cake.

Sorry for the late reply! It is in my newest book on stack deck magic (marking the end of the trilogy of stacked deck publications) Completely Out of Order. At the moment it's only available direct from us (see link in my bio) and is offered in a beautiful full sized hard cover edition. Speaking of the genius that is Pit Hartling... there is an un-gaffed version of his wonderful Cup-pit in the book as well that might be of interest to card magicians. Its also very accessible from Redford stack at the drop of a hat!

PreDate is the No Memory Card to Calendar trick available at https://bobmillermagic.biz

Formats: Printed pocket calendar, Stage size, or digital for phones and iPads:
Features: No memorizing. The key is hidden in plain sight so you know which card to force.
Stacks: Choose Aronson, Mnemonica, Si Stebbins or ANY STACK since Bob has software to create a digital image of the calendar with any sequence of cards.