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Tom DV
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Hi, I'm having a little trouble finding key props for Osterlind's routines on his (fantastic) DVDs---a watch that operates in the unique way that his does, a pencil for the magazine test (you'll know if you've seen the explanation), and a carbide saw (there are many on the market, I'm not sure which one would work best). Also (if those weren't enough!!) does anyone sell pads like "the imp pad"?
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I don't think any of these are sold on his website.

Basically, ask MR O himself as he is a member of the Café and is very nice and helpful.

Alternatively, do what Richard no doubt did when he put the routines together - PLAY! Try a few different things and play around until you get what you are looking for.

There are plenty of watches that do what you need to do - Swatch particularly.

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David.
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As he explains in the DVD, just about any watch will work. I use spectators' watches. I like it, because they don't assume the watch had anything to do with the trick.

Almost every watch has a date setting. Just click it to the date and move the date. It is not a big deal, because they know you are moving the hands, so it could end up on any date. Besides that who is looking at the date? Everybody is looking at the hands!
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To be quite honest, my audience are smart, and if they go away and see the date has been changed, then they will know the method I use and the one Mr Osterlind uses. This is unacceptable to me. I shall purchase a watch with no date screen to see but with the function on the pip. Swatch as David recommends would do the job.
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Thanks a lot for your input. I really appreciate it.
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Here's a link to a thread on the pen issue:
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......forum=15
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Guys, let me add a little here.

Jimtron, thanks for posting the link to the pencil.

Next, the saw I use is the Stanley carbide grit rod saw. (Got mine at Ace Hardware)

Finally, if the date thing bothers you with the watch, (and wouldn't the date really change if you were winding the hands?) just use a watch with a locking stem, such as Rolex, fake Rolex or a whole slew of other watches made that way. As I showed on the videos, just push in the stem and it does nothing, including changing the date.

Richard
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Mr. Osterlind, your cleverness and ingenuity puts Macgyver to shame!

I don't own DVD 1 or 3 yet, but I certainly will, and very soon.
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On 2004-08-18 18:32, Hypnotic Winter wrote:
To be quite honest, my audience are smart, and if they go away and see the date has been changed, then they will know the method I use and the one Mr Osterlind uses.


Your spectators should be writting books, and producing DVD's. I have never had a spectator come close to knowing how this effect is done.
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Let me add that I, from time to time, have used my own watch with date AND month display, doing this routine close up.
Believe me, not one single person has questioned that the date might change. All they see and focus on is the time. That takes all their attention.

Sven
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I just viewed DVD #1.

Great stuff!

This helps make up for all the garbage I buy that never comes close to living up to the hype.

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Regarding the watch, as I recall Mr. Osterlind is using his own Swatch watch without any date on it, but the watch is actually prepared for a date, meaning it has two positions on the stem. SWATCH WATCH could be bought in every city.

FRANK, I'm glad you liked it and finally found a mentalism DVD that's value for money. Remember to check out Osterlind Vol 2 as well, Banachek vol 1 and 2, and Richard Busch Peek Performances (book).
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Refering to one of Richard's posts here, he said that he, for the last year or so, have not used his own watch. He has borrowed the spectactor's.

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On 2004-08-19 05:25, Sven wrote:
Referring to one of Richard's posts here; he told that he for the last year or so have not used his own watch. He has borrowed the spectator's.

Sven


I agree that using the spectator's watch is the ultimate handling. However, for people to start of and get the routine running a good starting point would be to use your own watch as a default. Then slowly get acquainted with different watch types. After all Osterlind used his own watch for many years and also slowly learned other watches.
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On 2004-08-19 05:45, Vraagaard wrote:
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On 2004-08-19 05:25, Sven wrote:

Referring to one of Richard's posts here; he told that he for the last year or so have not used his own watch. He has borrowed the spectator's.

Sven


I agree that using the spectator's watch is the ultimate handling. However, for people to start of and get the routine running a good starting point would be to use your own watch as a default. Then slowly get acquainted with different watch types. After all Osterlind used his own watch for many years and also slowly learned other watches.


Let me clarify just a bit. When I first started doing this routine, I used a watch that Richard Mark marketed years ago. Just a Geneva watch with the locking stem thing. Then, after I wore it out, I used a fake Rolex. Next I used a Citizen watch which changed the date if rotated one way and didn't if you spun it the other way. (I simply directed the spectators which way to turn it.) Then my friend from NY, Mark Mitton, gave me the Swatch watch I used on the video. I used this for about two years until it finally gave out. Now I have a couple of date watches I use, but I almost always use a borrowed watch unless I can't get one from the audience.

To finish this up, I have been very surprised to find that for about the last three or four months, I have been almost always able to borrow a real Rolex to use for the effect. It is really surprising how many people wear them. Don't worry about harming the watch in any way. It is only when repeatedly doing the effect over and over again that you risk wearing it out.

Richard
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As Richard said, the date should not be an issue, just make sure they change the time a lot rather than "turn the stem, okay stop." You want to keep turning it in your demonstration and you want them to keep turning, lots. This way, the date change would make sense anyway.

I think it is one, in the handling, and two, in magician's guilt that the date becomes and issue.
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One thing that terrifies me is giving away any method to the lay audience. It's probably the country I come from. My people are very very suspicious. I like to leave with nothing to find.

I performed a compartment envelope card out before, and I was floored that they wanted to check the envelope and deck. I was lucky I was fast enough to remove the out cards and division slip while handing out the envelope. I no longer take any chances.
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Your spectators should be writting books, and producing DVD's. I have never had a spectator come close to knowing how this effect is done.


How would you know? They wouldn't notice the date change until much later, most likely. Then it might be even later than that that they would correlate the date change with the magic they saw. Are you only concerned with getting busted in the moment? To me, getting busted two days later is just as unacceptable.
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On 2004-08-18 18:32, Hypnotic Winter wrote:
To be quite honest, my audience are smart, and if they go away and see the date has been changed, then they will know the method I use and the one Mr Osterlind uses. This is unacceptable to me. I shall purchase a watch with no date screen to see but with the function on the pip. Swatch as David recommends would do the job.


Has your audience ever noticed this? I have never had a problem with the date.
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