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Caspar
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Okay, here is a dumb question. What type of Clipboard was that. I can't find them anywhere.

Thanks.
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As I said, it's most likely to do with where I'm from.

An interesting point is that people don't loan to money to other people here; if money is given it's not expected back. After seeing programs like Judge Judy, my people can't understand why those people in the state loan money and then expect it back the way they do. I guess it's all to do with history going back well over 100 years.

I showed a friend of mine the performance footage of Mr. Osterlind's water production as I think it is one of the most amazing footage I've ever seen, and I would most likely never be able to do it.

My friend actually caught the loading. My jaw nearly hit to floor. I mean I'm a mentalist with magic knowledge, and I never caught it in the performance first time around. She instantly said, "I saw what he did the moment he did it."

It means I'm so careful that I never perform unless I can do it, so there is nothing left to see or discover.
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On 2004-08-19 18:02, Hypnotic Winter wrote:
As I said, it's most likely to do with where I'm from.

An interesting point is that people don't loan to money to other people here; if money is given it's not expected back. After seeing programs like Judge Judy, my people can't understand why those people in the state loan money and then expect it back the way they do. I guess it's all to do with history going back well over 100 years.

I showed a friend of mine the performance footage of Mr. Osterlind's water production as I think it is one of the most amazing footage I've ever seen, and I would most likely never be able to do it.

My friend actually caught the loading. My jaw nearly hit to floor. I mean I'm a mentalist with magic knowledge, and I never caught it in the performance first time around. She instantly said, "I saw what he did the moment he did it."

It means I'm so careful that I never perform unless I can do it, so there is nothing left to see or discover.


I could say, "What about folding up the bag?" or "What about showing both spectators the empty bag and letting them feel inside?" or "What about letting them hold the bag stretched between them?"

but instead what I will say is, "Why don't you get yourself a new girlfriend???"
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You can fool some of the people some of the time...


... or just decide never to perform again


The only bullet proof routine is the one where you shoot yourself. And even then you may miss.
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On 2004-08-18 12:11, Tom DeVoe wrote:
Hi, I'm having a little trouble finding key props for Osterlind's routines on his (fantastic) DVDs. . . and a carbide saw (there are many on the market, I'm not sure which one would work best). . .

After spending a couple of hours with some bottles and a carbide hacks saw blade Mr. Osterlind describes on the DVD, I was left with a couple of prepared bottles and one very tired arm. So I went to Lowes and picked up a carbide wheel for my Dremel Rotary Tool. I can now prepare a bottle in about 30 seconds. (CAUTION: Wear eye protection and make sure you use a SLOW and steady hand or you will very quickly end up with two pieces of the bottle!) You'll go through 5 or 10 bottles before you get the hang of it, but once you get the feel, you can make up several in just a few moments without a tired arm. Any hardware store that carries attachments for a Dremel should have the proper bit.

BTW, this is a FANTASTIC effect! Bravo Mr. Osterlind!
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On 2004-08-20 01:08, Rocinante wrote:
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On 2004-08-18 12:11, Tom DeVoe wrote:
Hi, I'm having a little trouble finding key props for Osterlind's routines on his (fantastic) DVDs. . . and a carbide saw (there are many on the market, I'm not sure which one would work best). . .

After spending a couple of hours with some bottles and a carbide hacks saw blade Mr. Osterlind describes on the DVD, I was left with a couple of prepared bottles and one very tired arm. So I went to Lowes and picked up a carbide wheel for my Dremel Rotary Tool. I can now prepare a bottle in about 30 seconds. (CAUTION: Wear eye protection and make sure you use a SLOW and steady hand or you will very quickly end up with two pieces of the bottle!) You'll go through 5 or 10 bottles before you get the hang of it, but once you get the feel, you can make up several in just a few moments without a tired arm. Any hardware store that carries attachments for a Dremel should have the proper bit.

BTW, this is a FANTASTIC effect! Bravo Mr. Osterlind!


Thanks so much for that advice! I will go looking for one of the wheels this weekend.

Richard
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On 2004-08-20 01:08, Rocinante wrote:
After spending a couple of hours with some bottles and a carbide hacks saw blade Mr. Osterlind describes on the DVD, I was left with a couple of prepared bottles and one very tired arm. So I went to Lowes and picked up a carbide wheel for my Dremel Rotary Tool. I can now prepare a bottle in about 30 seconds. (CAUTION: Wear eye protection and make sure you use a SLOW and steady hand or you will very quickly end up with two pieces of the bottle!) You'll go through 5 or 10 bottles before you get the hang of it, but once you get the feel, you can make up several in just a few moments without a tired arm. Any hardware store that carries attachments for a Dremel should have the proper bit.


Needless to say, you should never use a dremel tool unless you have been instructed by a professional in it's use.

Carbide wheels are EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. They cut fingers easier than glass or metal.

Don't do this unless you have used one before.
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Xiqual is absolutely correct! Don't mess with a Dremel unless you know what you are doing. The Dremel will do more than just cut your finger - it will cut your finger OFF! No joke! Respect the power that this tool has.

Make sure that the hand that holds the bottle is AS FAR AWAY FROM THE CUTTING WHEEL AS IS POSSIBLE!

Again, I cannot stress enough that you MUST also wear full eye protection! Glass dust and glass chips WILL be flying. Rinse off the bottle with a garden hose afterwards to get rid of the glass dust and chips that will still be on and in the bottle. Do your work outside or in the garage. A dust mask over the mouth is also a very good idea.

DON'T move the cutting wheel back and fourth. If you do, the wheel will have a tendency to "grip" and then it will move along the edge of the bottle destroying the bottle and possibly hitting you and instantly taking off any appendage the cutting wheel happens to touch. This is not just for safety reasons, but in order to obtain the proper results. Follow similar instructions Mr. Osterlind gives on the DVD for using a carbide hack saw blade - once the first notch is made, lift the blade out and turn the bottle ever so slightly and start again at a new spot with the cutting wheel up against the end of the notch so everything will be the correct size to do what needs to be done. And again, GO SLOW and STEADY. Get a couple of six packs of Coke, and when you have a couple dozen or so empty bottles, then practice on them. It is very difficult to describe the proper method I have found gets the best results. Once you make some mistakes and find out what works and what doesn't, you'll understand how to do it.

As I mentioned, you'll probably destroy a couple of bottles the first few times you try it. Some other bottles will end up with a very visible white crack that may extend around to the other side of the bottle or visible through the bottle from the front. I just use these to practice on, keeping all the good ones with no cracks for real world use. Don't use the cracked ones for real world performances, even if the crack is just on your side and not visible to the audience. The cracked ones are inherently weak and I've had the bottom of the bottle simply fall off on these once the first portion of the effect is done. Luckily I was just using all my cracked ones to practice with. But if you are patient, you'll get enough usable bottles to keep on hand.

Again, PLEASE BE CAREFUL and don't do this unless you are completely confident and competent with the use of such a power tool. Mentalists need all their fingers just as much as magicians do. Smile
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On 2004-08-19 13:41, Joshua Lozoff wrote:
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Your spectators should be writting books, and producing DVD's. I have never had a spectator come close to knowing how this effect is done.


How would you know? They wouldn't notice the date change until much later, most likely. Then it might be even later than that that they would correlate the date change with the magic they saw. Are you only concerned with getting busted in the moment? To me, getting busted two days later is just as unacceptable.


Well after I have shown that the times match up and everybody is impressed I am nice and I turn the time and date back to the correct setting. Even if you did not set the time and date back, the DATE should change as you spin the hands. Wouldn't it be suspicious if you spun the hands on a watch thirty times and the date never changed?

Besides that point if somebody changed the time on your watch wouldn't you change it back after the perfomance? WHo walks around for days on end with the wrong time and date on a watch? Who are your specatators? If your spec's are that untrusting you might want to worry about your performance and not the actual mechanics of the trick.
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Carbide blades. Dremel wheels. Flying appendages. Glass dust in the eyes. Maybe I'll just stick with my Johnson's coin in the bottle. The worst thing I could lose is a rubber band or two.
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HI Mr osterlind, She caught the inital loading, how ever the rest of your performance I think did help desuade her, the water spilling cetainly helped.
I've performed for her groups a number of times so she may be used to watching performances how ever I suspect it may be to do with her attension span, she doesn't follow misdirection well, as you know from hypnosis, it doesn't help if a person doesn't follow your instructions, still I have met a few people like her, for some reason highly intelligent people seemt o be caught out quite easly.
By the way I loved making Magic real, I've taken it's advice to heart, I found the lord of the rings referances wonderful.
When your only reality is an illusion, then illusion is reality.
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I too am preparing bottles. I initially tried the dremel approach using a diamond wheel, and then to the carbide wheel. It didn't take me long to appreciate Mr. Osterlinds advice. I now use the carbide blade he reccomends and have no problems at all. Its safer (too much glass dust and flying particles the other way!), and much less likely to break the glass. Make sure you rotate the bottle as per Mr. Osterlinds advice in the video.

By the way, this is a real killer effect. If you havent already, get Mr. Osterlinds videos. A great investment!
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I love the bottle, I prepair them exactly the way Mr osterlind suggested, new's papers on the floor while cutting watching tv.
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Hi, as the guy who, in my innocence, started this conversation-i would like to thank everybody, especially mr. osterlind himself, who contributed to helping me achieve the marvellous effects I strive to achieve....thanks!!
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