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MagicbyCarlo Inner circle has squandered his time making 1062 Posts |
The See Thru Geneva Prediction Watch is an exposed workings version of the original Geneva Prediction watch. The watch is a utility pocket watch gimmick/prop that allows the spectator to arbitrarily set a time by spinning the hands of the watch and for you to force the out come to one of 12 different preset times. The see thru aspect of the watch refers to the fact that the watch works are visible at the center of the watch face. This feature is both a blessing and a curse. One hand it further masks the watch's true nature, on the other it makes the hands of the watch a bit harder to see as they are against a busy background. Since I wasn't aware of how the gimmick worked, I had a totally different notion about the watch’s use. You cannot force anytime, there are limitations to 12 specific times, which still gives you plenty of flexibility, but it cannot be used to set a freely thought of time as in Osterlind’s watch routine. The gimmick itself is very well made and the watch is beautiful. The Watch comes with some routine ideas and with the props to perform Locked in Time. For a few additional dollars you can also get booklet with some presentational ideas by Jeff Sheridan. The price on this item is $450 + insurance, shipping and handling, not cheap, but also not that expensive given the craftsmanship and clever methodology. This item has potential for mentalists and bizarre magicians.
Carlo DeBlasio
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runawayjag Inner circle 1085 Posts |
I've never been much of a fan of this trick. It is based on an old Syd Bergson effect (either Timely Effect or Time Bomb, I can't remember which title,) which is the exact same method only applied to a wristwatch instead of a pocketwatch. BTW, for all the ethics shouters out here, there is NO credit to Bergson whatsoever in the instructions.
I think the effect itself shouts out "mechanical," even though the Geneva Watch isn't really entirely mechanical. I think the Stull Watch is far superior, but that's the magician in me appreciating the mechanics rather than the effect (which are the same in both watches.) The best use, and only one I would ever consider for this trick, is one I saw many years ago where the performer used thie watch to force the final item in Mental Epic, thereby avoiding playing cards entirely. I have only the original model, however, I, too, would think that the "see-through" aspect of the new model would NOT enhance the effect, only clutter it by making it more difficult to see the hands. |
Julie Inner circle 3936 Posts |
The obvious alternative to the expensive CW items and the rare Stull watches is to use a regular pocket watch (Walmart=$4.99) and manipulate the stem. Most of today's "younger" spectators/audience participants are unfamiliar with the idiosyncrocies of the "older"
style watches. The PRESENTATION is the thing! |
Thomas Walter Special user Well, it is strange that at my age, I certanly should have more than 527 Posts |
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On 2004-09-10 13:20, Julie wrote: Hmmm... as I have been involved in magic, both as a performer and a magic dealer for the last 50 years, and absolutely not among the "young ones" I find I´ve missed something! Unless this is a marked or otherwise copywrited secret it would be interesting to be enlighted on the matter. Perhaps in one of the secret sessions. Or if it is published somewere, or..... |
q.mark New user 29 Posts |
I have never owned one of these but I read some review that due to a different mechanism in the see-thru version the watch cannot be handled the same way the original Geneva watch (opaque version) can. More specifically, with the see-thru watch the performer would have to reveal the time on the watch.
Is this correct? To me, that highly diminishes the advantages of this (expensive) watch... |
q.mark New user 29 Posts |
Got a PM by a (previous) owner of the see-through version. Indeed you can't have the spectator open the watch himself, quite a flaw imho...
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Shagbeard New user 67 Posts |
How mechanical is this watch? I have some experience in watchmaking and a gimmick would be easy to spot. So my curiosity is up because in my circles this might be a hard trick to pull off if handing it out for inspection was needful.
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Shagbeard New user 67 Posts |
Wow
The price on these are huge. Are they all this pricey?
Magic speaks to the child in all of us. No matter how sophisticated we become, there's still a part of us who wants to believe in an alternative reality, where we can defy the laws of nature.
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Stevethomas Inner circle Southern U.S.A. 3728 Posts |
Not mechanical at all.
Steve |
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