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poppa New user Austin, Tx. 73 Posts |
Most of the Die Boxes I've seen lately are cheap junk.
I would truly like to build my own. Does anyone know where Plans could be found? I know at least one method, and could draw up blueprints from scratch, but it would be nice to have a starting point if these are available.
~Poppa Jim Mitchell
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hugmagic Inner circle 7655 Posts |
There were some plans by Paul Osborne in an old Genii magazine.
I would look at some of the dieboxes made by Mel Babcock. They are very nice and reasonablly priced for what they are.
Richard E. Hughes, Hughes Magic Inc., 352 N. Prospect St., Ravenna, OH 44266 (330)296-4023
www.hughesmagic.com email-hugmagic@raex.com Write direct as I will be turning off my PM's. |
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
I've built several and am always trying new styles. I usually draw up my own design, but sometimes I buy a cheap piece of junk to use as a template, as there are many different construction methods. Then I alter the dimensions to make it to my specifications, or make it from nicer materials, give it a better finish, etc.
~michael baker
The Magic Company |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
Plans are in a 1960 Popular Science special edition on Magic. It has the die box and the dagger head chest and many other magic props such as Disecto.
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m.ruetz Veteran user Peoria Arizona, USA 378 Posts |
There is a copy of that book (Science and Mechanics 1962 Magic Handbook) on eBay now. Search under my user ID (m.ruetz)
MagicGizmo: Magic Articles, Classifieds, Videos, and more
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Bryan Gilles Inner circle Northern California 1732 Posts |
Richard, Do you recall the year and month of the Genii Magazine that has the Osborne Die Box?
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hugmagic Inner circle 7655 Posts |
I was in error. I checked by 3 ring notebooks with copies of things from magazines in and it was a Mum magazine, October 1987 page 26. It was part of a series of mini illusion plans by Paul Osbourne.
The science and mechanics book does have pretty decent set of plans also. The copies by categories in three ring notebooks have saved me may times. Could you imagine me going back digging through 20+ years of five publications hunting this stuff?
Richard E. Hughes, Hughes Magic Inc., 352 N. Prospect St., Ravenna, OH 44266 (330)296-4023
www.hughesmagic.com email-hugmagic@raex.com Write direct as I will be turning off my PM's. |
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Bryan Gilles Inner circle Northern California 1732 Posts |
Richard, Sadly I have stacks of Geniis and no MUMs....would you be willing to scan and send me a copy of that DieBox plan? I dug through my Illusionworks books hoping to find it and no luck! I am intrested in seeing the plans because I have been working with a friend who has a very unique Die Box and would like to challenge him to change up his design... Thanks...you have been helpful throughout all the threads I have posted!
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hugmagic Inner circle 7655 Posts |
Send me a regular email and I will try to get to it in the next couple of days. I do not think these plans were included in any of his books. It was a bunch of smaller things, like the die box, dove from balloon, etc.
Richard E. Hughes, Hughes Magic Inc., 352 N. Prospect St., Ravenna, OH 44266 (330)296-4023
www.hughesmagic.com email-hugmagic@raex.com Write direct as I will be turning off my PM's. |
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whizzomagic Regular user Louisville, Ky 109 Posts |
I would love a scan of that as well!
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Regan Inner circle U.S.A. 5726 Posts |
I had a cheap die box that I didn't use anymore and I customized it for a special Christmas routine and now I really like it. It serves it's magical purpose very well.
Regan
Mister Mystery
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hugmagic Inner circle 7655 Posts |
Guys, I have contacted Paul Osborne to see if he sells the plans for the die box and other small props.
I just do not feel it is right for me to send out copies of his plans. I have given the exact reference in MUM for this effect and I hope that I will hear back from Paul on this. MUM is also copyrighted and for SAM members only so again it is not fair to copy and send out prints of plans. I am trying to find work something out on this. I hope you understand my position on this.l
Richard E. Hughes, Hughes Magic Inc., 352 N. Prospect St., Ravenna, OH 44266 (330)296-4023
www.hughesmagic.com email-hugmagic@raex.com Write direct as I will be turning off my PM's. |
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Julie Inner circle 3936 Posts |
Mel Babcock, the Maestro of Die Boxes, gives step-by-step building instructions in his book. It's available from his web-site. (The color pictures of his props are a good reason for buying the book.)
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Mystical Dave New user Dave Pothier 3 Posts |
Can you tell me whether there are other plans for building props/illusions in his book?
Perhaps someone can recommend a good book for building props/illusions. Thanks in advance. |
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hugmagic Inner circle 7655 Posts |
Ok guys, I never heard back from Paul Osbourne so I won't send out the drawings as it is not mine. As I looked at them, I notice that they are very sketchy and could not be used much in building.
I have scanned the old set from Science and Mechanics (OOP) but the file is pretty large so I am working on cutting the size so I can email it out. I have dial up and it would take me two days to send this out. I'll try to get to it in the next couple of days.
Richard E. Hughes, Hughes Magic Inc., 352 N. Prospect St., Ravenna, OH 44266 (330)296-4023
www.hughesmagic.com email-hugmagic@raex.com Write direct as I will be turning off my PM's. |
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tabman Inner circle USA 5946 Posts |
Making a basic die box isn't that hard. I've made several and there's a lot to decide before you start cutting wood.
Like: How many doors?? Sliding sound??? What kind of wood?? How do you neatly paint a large die??? Making the shell??? I'd say first decide what size die you want and reverse engineer. Pick some nice wood and/or metal and sand it and polish it. I will draw up a basic die box plan and post it for you soon. Sounds like a fun project!! -=tabman
...Your professional woodworking and "tender" loving care in the products you make, make the wait worthwhile. Thanks for all you do...
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Cliffg37 Inner circle Long Beach, CA 2491 Posts |
Hey Richard,
Not to sound over eager, but if you wanted to mail the plans to me, either on a cd-rom, or hard copy, I would be happy to post them for you. If you are not comfortable with that, it's OK, I wont take offence
Magic is like Science,
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houdini Loyal user N.E. Kansas 203 Posts |
I have an oriental style Die Box made by Owens Magic Supreme and it is definitely not junk. Got it back in early 1970s and it always plays big with adults and kids alike. Its one of my favorite classics of magic.
Jim. Thats me on the left,Everyone should know the other guy!
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
Babcock's die boxes are certainly not junk. I have also seen some of the imports and they are very nice as well for infrequent shows.
I use the old Abbott's Elusive Clock for 45 years and it is still working okay. |
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ricker Special user Tampa, FL 914 Posts |
Tabby,
In 1980, my father and I made a die box from just the description in 'The Amateur Magicians Handbook' by Henry Hay. We did EXATLY as you said, we built the die out of some 4x4 wood (so it was 4 x 4 x 4) and build the box and shell around it. I still have it to this day. It's basicly two boxes side by side that share a wall. Rick |
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