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gareth123 Loyal user Rotherham UK 245 Posts |
Could anybody tell me how you get started in cold reading, I mean what books are ideal and perfect for starting out , and also how long did it take (to learn) when you first cold read somebody.
Gareth Hobson.
*is tihs migac or am i sineg aonhter wlord in wihch i nveer lvied UNTILL NOW*
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Scott Xavier Inner circle 3672 Posts |
I wanted to have super powers that would allow me to be liked by the opposite sex. I then looked up cold reading in a few books and received vague obscure references. I then started reading shut eyed books and realized I use to use these techniques and principles quite frequently. I then finally bought everything I could find on the subject.
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Ken Dyne Inner circle UK 2268 Posts |
Hi Gareth.
Richard Webster does a good few books and audio CDs on the subject. other references are Robert Nelson Art of Cold Reading, Robert Nelson The Sequel to the Art of Coldreading, Ian Rowland's Full Facts of Coldreading, then there is the Trickshop.com publication on Coldreading Tradecraft. Once you have waded through all these and read then thoroughly and began employing their techniques I would read Brad Henderson's The Dance. Hope this helps a little, Kind thoughts, Kennedy
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Jay Elf Elite user 466 Posts |
Hello Mr. Kennedy,
I read all of the books you mentioned above except Tradecraft by Trickshop.com. I saw the ad in a web site once, but I have no idea about the book. It would be greatly appreciated if you tell me how it is. Thank you in advance. |
procyonrising Special user New York 698 Posts |
Hey Gareth,
Just go out and do it. If you want to make some money, print up some business cards with your name and the title "Psychic" and go to the next Psychic Fair (or any other kind of fair for that matter) in your area. If you pay for a table, that'll probably take all your profits, so you can crash the event; all you have to do is go up to a very pretty lady and start talking to her about her energy. Then you go into your energy reading (or just pick up her hand and start reading it). You'll get better as time progresses, so don't worry about being bad. The thing is to start and to start now. (I know it also sounds like a great pick-up technique - and it is - however, if you're good, the women start coming to you...) |
bluefred Regular user 108 Posts |
I saw a program about psycich fraudelents by james randy they used a technique called cold reading and look amazing so I when whit my magic dealer and I asked about books in the field he give me "psychometri a to z" by richard webster and a cd of the same author then I get the rest of material of this author and the full facts cold reading,the dance,the suplemental oort,hot cold reading, ect,ect and I finish learning a shut eyes system [tarot and palmistry] and I don't know why but a real system is very accurate.
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Ken Dyne Inner circle UK 2268 Posts |
The Tradecraft book is no better or worse than Rowland's. You may want to consider Readings for the magcician, or Kenton's Wonder Readings, also Kenton's completely cold. The advantage of these over many others is that they give a set structure into which you slot your reading, which is absolutly useful when you are starting out in cold reading.
Another good source, I am sure it has been mentioned elsewhere, is to look at the daily horroscopes in magazines and newspapers. One peice of advice above all on cold reading, find out what they want to hear and tell them it. Hope this helps even if just a little Kind thoughts, Kennedy
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SpAgHeTtI Regular user 166 Posts |
I have very few experiences but I think that the best way to start cold reading is doing hot-cold reading....
So I'm looking for some hot tecnique,like billet work..... |
Bambaladam Special user 636 Posts |
I was struck by lightning,
/Bamba |
ddyment Inner circle Gibsons, BC, Canada 2499 Posts |
Forgive the crass commercialism, but I would be remiss in not mentioning a product that directly addresses this issue: Cold Front. Whether or not you decide that the product is of use to you, however, you may well find the comments in the overview helpful.
And to answer the original question: I used an early version of Cold Front, in conjunction with Richard Webster's book, Quick & Commercial Cold Reading. ... Doug
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raymond New user 41 Posts |
I started to do readings by exhibiting at a psychic fair with a non psychic product as a vendor. Unfortunately the product created such a ruckus that the psychics screamed blue murder and complained to the promoter who told me that she didn't want me to come back the following year.
I retorted by saying I would come back the following year as a psychic. She asked if I was experienced. I lied and said I was. I came back the following year with a set script which I couldn't remember so I stuck it under the table so that I could read it like a teleprompter. Unfortunately it was a bit obvious and I could hardly read my own writing anyway. To make matters worse the script kept coming unstuck and falling onto the floor. I then resorted to the centre tear and went through great fear and trepdidation that I would get caught. I do remember indeed that or two of my clients looked a trifle suspicious. I decided to give up the psychic business after that but a couple of years later I needed revenue in order that I could have food with my meals so decided that I would have to get some money out of nowhere so I put an advertisement in the newspaper saying that I was a famous psychic just arriving in town and would be available for bookings. I was quite inundated with literally dozens and dozens of clients. I hadn't the slightest idea what I was doing but I managed to take money out of everybody. However I decided that this incompetence of mine couldn't go on so studied cold reading with a fury. I started with Richard Webster's books and then Joe Riding and then everything else under the sun from psychology to counselling and all the shut eye stuff too. Since then I have done thousands of readings and I think I can immodestly claim to know the psychic business inside out. I am always amused that magicians write books about this subject yet in practice they know very little about the psychic world and many of them have done very little in the way of paid readings. I am very tempted to write a book full of anecdotes about the psychic business and all my shenanigans and ups and downs. I think it would be a great book for general publication. I would however have to write it under a pseudonym in the interests of my thousands of clients who would be quite distressed to find out that the business is a sham. It would also displease a lot of my shut eye psychic friends who would no doubt put a hex on me. My crooked psychic friends wouldn't be too happy either. I think my favourite incident is when I saw a psychic at a fair wrestling on the floor with a displeased customer. Very weird affair. The unhappy client was a transexual person who was unhappy that no sound came on her tape and wanted her money back. The psychic was ill that day so the client went to her best friend (another lady psychic)who refused the refund. Angry words were excahnged and the next thing we all knew was a middle aged lady psychic wrestling on the floor with a transexual man dressed in women's clothing. Daftest thing I ever saw in my life. This is the kind of thing you will encounter when you study cold reading and get into the psychic business. Beware. |
Osiris Special user 610 Posts |
Firstly, I'd pick up a copy of Bob Cassidy's essay on Cold Reading. It will extend to you a few points of view MOST sources will not. From there you have the choice of TRADECRAFT and of course the Ian Rowland book on said topic. If budget is an issue go to OnLine-VISIONS and dig into the archieves of Craig Browning's "Psychic Perspectives" column. You may also wish to sign up for Blair Robertson's mental-list.com/forum and check out Philemon Vanderbek's OORT group (and get the OORT books if you can, loads of material there.)
Oh! BEFORE you go to all that trouble, find a legit divination system as in the Tarot, Numerology, Palmistry, etc. and LEARN IT. DO NOT study any of the aforementioned material until you've learned how to properly execute a straight reading straight from the proverbial book that every shut-eye learns from. Once you've learned how to work with at least two or three legit systems you can start learning how to augment this material via the psycho-babble you find in most magic based resources. You must keep in mind that the bulk of the material available within the magic community on doing Readings, is filled with bias and, as some would say "ulterrior motives". In the martial arts world there is a saying "You can teach a boxer how to use his/her feet but you cannot teach a karate guy how to use their hands." This same rule of thumb exists in Mentalism and the art of being a Reader. I can teach anyone that's never studied the magician's side of this craft, how to become a very adept reader in reasonably short time. But magician's just don't want to believe they can accomplish outstanding "miracles" for someone sitting across from them, without doing some kind of stupid trick. I am a Reader and have worked as one for well over 25 years... it's my "Day Job" so to speak. I say this not to toot my own horn, but so as to encourage anyone interested in venturing down this path, to listen to those in these forums that actually have experience working a significant amount of the time as a tableside Reader instead of the local armchair experts that have only read a few books and regurgitate the bias found therein. Experience in the real world is the only way to learn! |
Jay Elf Elite user 466 Posts |
Hi Mr. Kennedy,
I appreciate your advice. Thank you. |
Hypnotic Winter Special user Ireland 720 Posts |
This may be just my opinion, but I would avoid cc if your starting and are not very rich, it cointains very little info on cold reading it's self, I think Trade craft is best to start with, Ian Rowlands Book is highly comprehensive though.
H.W
When your only reality is an illusion, then illusion is reality.
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Anabelle Special user 951 Posts |
I started by being interested in the tarot, buying one, and studying it until I knew it pretty well. There's tons of information there. I have also read completely cold and thought it was ok.
Anabelle |
Hypnotic Winter Special user Ireland 720 Posts |
Origionally I started Exactly the same way as Anabelle, though I ended up learning palms, Ruins, I ching, and Astrology etc, I even went beyond this and learned all about witch craft, vodoo etc, it's all proved very useful, there's nothgin like having all that knowledge to back you up and when I was a teenager I believed in all that stuff, all this was long before I ever touched a cold reading books, when I started to read some cold reading books it was like reading about myself.
H.W
When your only reality is an illusion, then illusion is reality.
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