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I love Lord of the Rings and you can go tons of different ways. You could use it to prove a point about the power of the ring, and then go into a linking ring routine.

You could produce a Hobbit. But I guess the Hobbit Assessment of Care and Kindness Society (H.A.C.K.S.) would be against it.

Those HACKS...

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"Hackito, Ergo, Sum!" ("I hack, therefore, I am!" - old programmer's philosophy). Couldn't resist.

One effect might be the flaming head illusion. Something about a Balrog, perhaps?

On stage, Andruzzi's Vanishing Assistant, from his lecture notes (and a variation of which is used by Lance Burton) would KILL! A hooded assistant comes to you on stage. You place your fingertips on her shoulders and slowly, she floats up into the air better than a foot!

A flash of fire and the robe drops - EMPTY! No trap doors, no tables, no boxes.

Another might be doing the Zombie Ball with a Palantir. Instead of that gleaming (obviously aluminum) ball, use what seems to be a dark crystal ball instead.

Dancing cane with a magician's staff wouldn't be out of place, either.

Hope this helps!

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The ring has a will of its own and WANTS to be found... Sauron will wait until one of you tries to use it...

I am slowly coming up with a routine where I would put the ring on a lace, tie it up and ask for someone around the table to put it around his neck and under his shirt. He would be able to feel it under the shirt. Later, when I would ask him to "bring forth the ring", it would have disapeared only to be found in someone else's pocket...

The really tricky part is to make the ring bearer "feel" the ring under his shirt. Suggestions are welcome.

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Richard, have the ring in your hand and YOU put it in their shirt. As you do, press the ring against their chest, gently.

Sort of like the old Ellis Ring gag on the thumb - which would also play in this situation as well, come to think of it!

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Mstrhypno,

I was thinking about something similar but would like the cord to hold the shape of what would seem like a ring through the fabric if the spectator was asked to check if it was still there from time to time. Of course, the ring would never have been around his neck. Maybe if I tried to thread some metal wire into the cord so I could shape it while puting it in his shirt?

What is the old Ellis Ring gag on the thumb effect BTW?

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One little "heads up, guys" matter:

The Tolkien Estate is VERY protective of its rights with regards to ANY use of kindly ol' Doc T's creations, so be advised thatm, like the Recording Industry of America, they are going after people who pirate or otherwise profit on their trademarks.

And unlike magicians, they have the Nine Nazgul Nabobs of Litigation (lawyers) on retainer, waiting to ring in any one who violates their protected rights.

So, instead of referencing anything directly, be subtle.

"In a land far away, where little people with fuzzy feet live, a Ring was found..." is probably pretty safe.

Short quotations are probably pretty safe under fair useage (but check with your own Nazgul - uh lawyer - on that!), but play it safe.

They have buried whole publishing companies.

Just a bit of sage advice,

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Here is a thought;

ring introduced, and handed out for inspection for later effect... passed among audience.

while this... spec asked up to assist, adn card is selected -> shuffled into deck. deck tabled.

*****
audience asked to get up, one at a time and take top card of deck, turn over and put on pile.

people come up and do so until spec who selected card announces their card has been turned over.

That spec is the one who has the 'ring'

what are your thoughts?
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JonTown,

That would be very good but I'd create my own cards for this effect.

Everybody but the ring bearer would turn out with a blank card or a card with some symbolic picture representing different races like elves and dwarfs. But the spec with the ring would turn over a card with a lideless eye of fire staring at him...

This little show I'm thinking of is somewhat related more to bizare magic than conventional closeup magic. I'd feel ordinary cards would break the mood you may want to create. But that is just my opinion. Smile

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The Ellis Ring on Thumb bit is a clever routine.

The ring (with gaffus) is placed on to someone's thumb.

Covered with a hanky, the Magus reaches under the hank and removes the ring, openly.

The ring then penetrates the hanky and reappears on the spectator's thumb, which has been undercover the whole time.

Method is to remove the gaffus, leaving the ring behind, using a sort of slight pull off and re set then remove move that's hard to describe in print.

The vanish is done by any method - the original version used the sleeve for the vanish, IIRC.

Persoanlly, I have seen others do it, but have never been able to make it work for me.

Hope this helps.

Hey! Brainstorm!!

Corinda's Powers Of Darkness!!!

A wonderful psychological routine.

Also, a HIMBER ring routine "One Ring to find them and in the Darkness BIND them!"

Done with an appropriately Vincent Price-ian delivery, this could KILL!

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Shades of the Leonard Nimoy record albumn where he sings the Ballad of Bilbo Baggins!

Now I'll have nightmares for weeks!!!

That thing was almost as bad as Shatner's version of MacArthur Park! (which can make your ears bleed and lead to sterility!!)

Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile

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Shatner doing that Mr. Tamborine Man freaks me out. He's possessed at the end or what?

Ellen
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I think the "dancers" in that video disturb me more than the voices in any of the songs, to tell you the truth. They seem to think that Bilbo is a prairie dog or something...

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I almost hate to ask on this great thread, but do we have to worry about copyright protection for using Tolkiens Third-Earth?
I know I could slide in an effect or two, but this is a great idea. What happens if the whole show is done and advertised with this theme?
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The Tolkien family is VERY protective of their franchise, so be careful, especially about marketing any effects that use the trademarked names, titles and the like.

Consult with your lawyer on that, of course--or better yet--a trademark lawyer who has reviewed the Tolkien empire.

For a single magic trick, it shouldn't be a problem, but if one tried to market an entire act based on the Trilogy (or the other books, like The Hobbit, Silmarilion, etc.) and dressed as one of the characters while performing it, then troubles could follow. At least that would be my guess!

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I have a whole show that is routined to LOTR, but when advertising I put themed magic. If asked I say it's a bit like LOTR or Harry Potter or anything thay want within reason. Anyway, here's a routine for you.

2 specatators (one of them takes the ring after you have left the stage, as per The Truth of the Relic - Rick Maue's BOHM). On comes a Ring Wraith and asks his question and finds the ring.

A puff of smoke and the Wraith disappears. You come back on stage to find the ring gone and tell the spectators that they had better sit down as The One Ring has returned to its owner.

As they sit down the whole stage is filled with flames. The curtains come down. The show's over!!!

I have done the routine as part of my close up set but only just thought about the last bit.

Anyway, let me know what you think.
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Sounds like an interesting idea, but the Wraith finds the ring, so no surprise to the audience when you don't find it, I would think, based on your description.

But I don't have the Rick Maue routine, so I could be missing something here.

Happy New Year anyway!

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The basic idea seems a natural for a linking finger ring thing where you recruit specs and have them drop their rings into a glass, then add your 'one ring' and have them all link.

Also almost begs to be used for ring on/off rope, chain and finger type routine. Also, the thing can change size so could be used for Jardin Ellis type stuff too.
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Quote:
On 2003-11-03 00:41, Reg Rozee wrote:
I remember reading on the Café here somewhere (I just can't find it now) about a metal alloy that is gold colored until heated when it turns red. If you filled in carved letters in a regular gold ring with that, you would get the exact "one ring" effect. I seem to remember the fellow who posted it was an engineer and the alloy may be hard to get or expensive, but if you could—man, would that be cool!

-Reg {*}


Re: One Ring that the writing displays when heated:

That is called a Thermochromic Metal, and while I have seen many rumors that such a ring has been produced, I have never seen evidence that anyone has really done it yet. If anyone knows from personal experience that one of these is available, please let me know!!!

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I think that one should be original rather than copying exactly Lord of The Rings or using the same ring. The ring has been destroyed if you want to continue with the story. So get another ring. It has similar properties to the One Ring and was produced after the latter was destroyed. And so on and so on. Many things can be invented this way as one is not restricted by a few ideas.
Just my thought.
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