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Angela
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On 2004-10-10 04:10, Turk wrote:
How many episodes of this series are there?


From what I hear, there are six.
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Did anyone catch MM:Boston ? I loved the pool table trick , the second deck I think was an Invisible deck . I am wondering how he figured out the card under the ball (marked ?). THe scene in the church was little weak but neat. Nice rendition of the Two card monte/last trick of Dr daley. Bar scene was fun , Korn was very good at misdirecting while loading the bottle. Can't wait to see the next episode.
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On 2004-10-12 10:31, paymerich wrote:
I loved the pool table trick , the second deck I think was an Invisible deck . I am wondering how he figured out the card under the ball (marked ?).


Yes, the pool table idea is an old Eddie Fields bit.

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THe scene in the church was little weak but neat.


I agree.

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Nice rendition of the Two card monte/last trick of Dr daley.


Well, not Last Trick of Dr. Daley -- It's Eddie Fechter's "Be Honest, Which is It?". Similar, but different. Also, considering that Blaine's made that effect popular in recent years, it probably would have been a good idea to avoid this effect completely, especially since he didn't really do anything different with it.

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Bar scene was fun , Korn was very good at misdirecting while loading the bottle.


But horrendous at misdirecting while stealing the bottle (at least from the camera's perspective).

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I liked Korn, but Benn looks, talks, and acts like David Blaine. While it is not an exact copy of Blaine's character, it is close enough. I was watching it with a bunch of laymen, and more than a few commented on the Blaine/Benn comparison.
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I enjoyed it.
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I liked it also, but the guest mentalist, Jon Stetson, talked too fast, in my view. I'm hard of hearing and thank goodness that the show was close-captioned, so I could follow Jon's dialogue.

It is nice to see magic on television again, although it's still Blaine-influenced: audience reaction shots are emphasized, not too much in the way of setup, etc.
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I've enjoyed both episodes, but I'm starting to agree with the earlier poster, who felt episode 1 was too card-heavy ... episode 2 was even more so.

The highlight of last night's episode was the Stetson effect. The lowlight was the "Amazing Grace" effect, which almost put me to sleep.

A couple of things on my wish list for the show ...

1) More variety (not cards, cards, cards); other than the bottle routine (and the Stetson routine) was there anything that wasn't cards?

2) Spend a little more time with the guest magician -- not doing tricks, just having a little chat, and maybe give them a proper introduction. You're not just selling the show to the audience ... you're selling magic, and I firmly believe that laypeople will find a tiny bit of shop-talk interesting.

3) Show a little variety with the wardrobes. The plain t-shirt look (particularly with Benn) is far too reminiscent of a certain other magician, as has been mentioned. Both Benn and Korn are excellent magicians -- there's no need to draw comparisons between themselves and other TV magicians.

4) Let us get to know Korn and Benn. These guys are the stars of the show -- the main selling point. They're the lead characters. And yet, the audience doesn't get a chance to know them. Show us that they have personalities. Let us like the people, not just the effects they perform.

5) Take it off the streets. Show these guys doing, for example, restaurant work every now and then. Heck, I've seen Benn do restaurant work, and no one would ever draw comparisons between him and Blaine based on that.

So, I suppose my overall recommendation is "variety". You can't sustain a series if it's all one note.

But I'm being harsh ... the fact is, I enjoyed both episodes very much. I'd just like to see some tweaking.
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I thought the Stetson segment was good but rushed. Of course, I was looking forward to his performance but according to my cable box, it was 10:58 when they came back from commercial. I don't think it was fair to him to give him less than 1:30 to do a book test, but he did make it entertaining.
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Lol.... funny that he used "lumberjack", I'm sure many mentlist are hurting over that one, especially when at the end of their shows the audience goes "wow that is the same word from the same book as that guy on TV had!"


The church thing was..... mind numbing.

Not only was it long as pointless, but the spectators and the TV audience was just confused as all hell.

Where was he going with it? first you think he was going to do something with a sound, then he pulls out a deck of cards??? Then the cards goto a book which has a song which is playing? what the hell? Confusing your audience isn't the way to good magic.


Even his Fetcher effect was confusing with poor patter. Blaine did far better justice to the effect.

Blaine was at least slick with his card effects, JB Benn is a bumbling idiot.

Kris's effects were awesome as always, his bottle routine was super slick, even if the camera caught some of the action, all the laymen will just say "I saw the bottle still coming out of the napkin, and then it vanished"
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On 2004-10-05 08:51, Brian Proctor wrote:
I noticed something that Mr. Rubinstein might like, Chris executes the R.O.P.S. move nicely in the first episode for a couple of ladies. Just seeing that makes me want to start practicing it again.


What is the R.O.P.S. move and where can I find out more about it?
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It's a coin vanish. You should be able to find sources for it by googling "ROPS" and "Michael Rubinstein".
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Did anybody see it this week. What did you think of the spoon bending? I think he needs a lot of work on the secret moves. I don't know how he fooled anybody with that.
I also thought they could have used the Intercessor in a better way then what they did with the fire dept.
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The spoon bending is a good example of why these guys need to make adjustments for television. It played well for the spectators, who went absolutely ape. But watching on TV, viewers were less impressed; and misdirection with live spectators doesn't work quite as well with a TV audience. In this instance (and several others on the series) what is done to make the magic work for the spectators doesn't even register with the TV viewers.

The card trick with the firemen was ill-conceived. Whether or not an intercessor gimmick was used (and I'm assuming it was) ... the audience has their own "explanation" which is quite plausible. After all, the deck was given to Benn, the card was in the deck -- easy to find because of the ripped corner -- and while the hose was on him, he turned his back. Now, any laymen can speculate on what happened when he turned his back. They'll be wrong, but does that matter? They've come up with a solution that took the magic away.

I cared less for this episode than either of the previous. If you're going to do card tricks on television, they have to be killers. None of the three performed last night were. Two ho-hum effects and one (the riffle) that has already been done on TV by some guy named Blaine.

I was looking forward to the guest magician -- unfortunately we ended up with a straightjacket escape ... not the most original idea, and certainly not something the layman hasn't seen already.

Highlight: Korn's coins across routine. That was a pleasure to watch, and made sitting through the rest of the show worthwhile.

Again, I should say that while I wasn't terribly fond of this episode, I do like both of these magicians -- I just think they need to make adjustments to suit the medium.
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I am not a fan of Benn (his performance style is TERRIBLE)....but I feel Korn makes the show.

I think Korn should be the one doing most of the effects, and not this Benn fellow.
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Can anyone steer me to the coins across version done by Chris Korn? I thought it was great and am looking for a written or videoDVD treatment.
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Great series so far (I've seen 3). I watched the first Blaine special the other day and couldn't help noticing that several of the effects he did were done by the Mondo guys. No complaints though, I thought they did great.

Three of the guests were excellent - Harry Anderson, Shimshi and Stetson - the escape artist was OK.
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After some research in the Café, I found a thread on the coins across performed by Korn in the Show Me The Money forum. Here it is:

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......=3&8
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Could anyone tell me the name of the trick, I thought it might be a Gordon Bean effect, that Mr. Ben performed on last week's show. I'm talking about the one with the torn corner of the thought of card which is also blank. Also where the missing corner ends up under the cellophane on the cardcase. I can figure this one out (Princess card trick), but just wanted to know if it is commercially available and if or how the other outs for the revelation of the torn corner piece are handled.
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Korn proved himself again... that bill to orange was very cute! It reminded me of a bill to kiwi routine on The World's Greatest Magic that I hardly remember (but this stuff is always great in the right hands).

What did you guys think of this week? I was so tired on Monday that I fell asleep and missed some. When I woke up Korn was talking to a goldfish-- good thing I taped it. Smile

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