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Roger Kelly Inner circle Kent, England 3332 Posts |
I'm fascinated by what I've read (for the past four hours) on various sites regarding this mysterious (to me anyway) art. Where do I begin? I doubt if I'll ever be into 'reading' but I would like to scare the **** out of some dinner guests. That may sound flippant to some of you seasoned pros but I have checked out Black Hart's store and await his, and YOUR reply with interest. Thanks in anticipation.
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Phil Thomas Inner circle Newark, Ohio 1117 Posts |
Hi Pacotrix. I am a newcommer to the "bizarre" myself. One thing that I have learned from everyone here is that bizarre magick is about presentation around the effect. It is not really the trick in itself, but the way it is presented. One person who has been generous enough to help me out is Magickman. I'm sure he will be here shortly and can point you in the right direction, or you could PM him. Hope this helps.
Phil
"If we lose the sense of the mysterious, life is no more than a snuffed out candle."
Albert Einstein |
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Clarioneer Special user Ferndown, Dorset, UK 624 Posts |
The most basic would be a simple blister effect - wrapped up with a story about voodoo.
Ladies also love the simple finger chopper - surprises them when they can actually feel the blade against their finger - they don't expect this and get real nervous - especially if you are nervous too The simple card trick The Web is probably what you want - not for general public consumption.
catch you later
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
Start with stories.
Read. Find the magic. Bring that magic to your audiences.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Roger Kelly Inner circle Kent, England 3332 Posts |
Thanks folks. Yes, I'm learning already! I'm reading that I have to do a lot of reading! Would you recommend The Black Hart's Big Black Book for a starter? Perhaps with an accompanying deck of Tarot cards?
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Peo Olsson Inner circle Stockholm, Sweden 3260 Posts |
Three books I could recommend:
Capricornian Tales, by Christian Chelman. Strange Cermonies, by Eugene Burger. Sheherazade, by Borodin. You can also watch Eugene on the video "Eugene Goes Bizarre". Peo
Pictured to the left my hero and me during FISM 2006 in Stockholm.
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Roger Kelly Inner circle Kent, England 3332 Posts |
Cheers Peo. Good to talk to you again.
Please keep the recommendations coming folks. If I don't reply, its not through lack of interest. I'm off on hols for a week and will 'tune in' again when I return. |
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saheer Regular user 123 Posts |
I'd suggest Punx and Complete Invocation for routines and the compilations of fairy tales collected by Andrew Lang (like the "Red Fairy Book") for ideas.
"Because, without beer, things do not seem to go as well"
1902 diary of Brother Epp, Capuchin monk from Munjor, Kansas |
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salsa_dancer Inner circle 1935 Posts |
Look out for Caleb Strange's new book for some great presentational stories wrapped around some amazing effects.
It certainly draws you in! Submerge yourself in all forms of literature and as Jonathan Townsend mentioned above, find the magic and share!! |
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Peter Marucci Inner circle 5389 Posts |
Pacotrix,
Why spend money until you find out if bizarre is for you? Check out my monthly columns on the e-zine Visions (www.online-visions.com); it's free and there's no password. The column is Bizarre Bazaar and there's more than three dozen routines there. You might also check out Dragonskull (www.dragonskull.co.uk); it's also free but there is a (very basic) password. The suggestions in previous posts are all good, it's just that -- as I said -- why lay out the cash until you've tested the waters? |
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tctahoe V.I.P. Lakeland Fl. 731 Posts |
I agree with Peter... on the other hand a small investment in say...oh I don't know...Mind Over Magic, a little periodical that will begin next month could't go wrong.
http://www.tctahoe.com click on the fellow entertainers link... :) TC |
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scolman Elite user Cape Town, South Africa 456 Posts |
I am also new to bizarre. I love bizarre magick but only recently did I learn the following fact - you don't come across many people that believe standard magic/conjuring is real, however there are a number of people that have strong beliefs linked to some of the things we use in bizarre magick. (Tarot's, pendulums, occult artefacts, religious iconography etc.) This gets a very different reaction from folk. Now whilst this is good for performance purposes one has to be careful or at least aware of how far to push the proverbial envelope.
I have found Black Hart's book to be invaluable. Both Keith Hart in UK and Jim Magus in Georgia have been extremely helpful. I also second what the honorable Mr. Marucci has to say, I spent hours on the Drangonskull and Online Visions websites and found the routines that were freely given to be very useful (and free). (Peter your routines blow me away sometimes) Another thing I like about this genre is that I can either splash out on some very antique looking artefacts or I can find a use for my old effects that haven't been used for years (with the right presentation). On the Dragonskull site, There are some excellent methods to aging props for use in bizarre performances (costs very little to do) Hope this helps, Simon |
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Magickman Elite user St.Petersburg, Fl. 402 Posts |
Christian Chelman's Capricornian Tales is one of the best books available in Bizarre. Not only is the Magick strong, the stories he tells are pretty much unmatched. The Pact is a card effect from that book based on the gypsy's curse. This effect is made much stronger by it's routine! I have been doing gypsy's curse for a number of years, it was my first packet trick. But after doing the "Pact" I will never use the gypsy again! As far as the routine goes, it involves gambling and the Devil. This book belongs on every bizarrists shelf!
Magickman
What man knows he calls Science
What he has yet to learn he calls Magick Both are real! _Tony Andruzzi_ |
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mrmysticmike Elite user Cleveland, Ohio 427 Posts |
If you can find them, many of Mary Tomich's effects packed small and played very well. Most were suitable for close up/table enviorments.
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ptbeast Special user Oregon 831 Posts |
I agree with Peter, you should check out the online resources first to confirm that this is something that you want to get into. You have been given some great recommendations above, but in my mind a beginner needs to get the biggest bang for the buck. Given your stated desire to scare people, I would begin with Rick Maue's Haunted Magick and Black Harts Black Books (individually or Big Black Book). There is enough there to get you off to a great start. That, of course, will only be the beginning...
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Roger Kelly Inner circle Kent, England 3332 Posts |
Hi folks. Thanks very much for all your suggestions. I'll have to go with Peter Marucci's idea of 'look-before-you leap' especially as I have no cash left after my hols!! Thanks for the links too Peter - I'm off for a browse now
I appreciate all the other ideas aswell and have noted all the titles. I must say I'm intrigued by Black Hart's stuff. |
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Lee Darrow V.I.P. Chicago, IL USA 3588 Posts |
There's a wonderful video of the Master himself, Tony Andruzzi (Masklyn ye Mage) that is still available from Stevens, I believe, that is well worth looking into. Also any of the works by Charles Cameron are of great interest as these two men were among the people who really got the Bizarrist movement going in magic, in my opinion.
Stephen Minch's Lovcraftian Ceremonies and his book on tarot trickery also are well worth reading. And, if you can find a copy - The Compleat New Invocation is a treasure trove of material - including some effects by yours tryly! Hope this helps! Lee Darrow, C.H.
http://www.leedarrow.com
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Tspall Regular user Lumberton, NC 147 Posts |
I'm fairly new to bizarre magic myself but the best advice I can give to get started is to think about presentation. When you're practicing, spend some time just practicing your presentation. Don't worry about magic mechanics, just spend some time doing some presentations. After you get more comfortable with presenting, then start putting it together with some of your routines.
Peter Marucci's stuff is wonderful and a great place to get started! |
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Clifford the Red Inner circle LA, California 1941 Posts |
On presentations, Eugene has some wonderful essays on his site, one about scripting that is REALLY good, essential in fact.
http://www.magicbeard.com/view.php?id=15
"The universe is full of magical things, waiting for our wits to grow sharper." Eden Philpotts
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JAlenS Inner circle Utah 1526 Posts |
You can turn the simplest magic trick into a bit of theatre by weaving a spooky tale around the effect. For instance, I use a (true) story of a little girl who was possessed and found laid out, disemboweled and spread eagle on the ceiling of her bedroom around a simple little trick called Echec Et Mat.
I use a story of apocalypse with Black and White Surprise and both these effects get a much more powerful reaction if done with a story. Sometimes I'll do the BW Surprise after Echec Et Mat due to the speculation that I have more than one chip during the possession story. I produce the BWS chips from underneath a devil tarot card or a black silk that has been on the table untouched since the beginning. Everyone says "Ahhh" and then "but how.." I started this a couple of years ago before I knew there was a term for this kind of magic. I hope this gives you some ideas. |
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