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Richard Osterlind
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On 2004-10-19 16:16, mrfluffy wrote:

Richard, I do hope I didn't seem cocky/self absorbed - your Challenge Magic tape was the main reason I got into mentalism, and the BCS has allowed me to perform minor miracles.

I look forward to trying the ODDS to hopefully allow for more "miracles"

yours humbly

fluff


Fluff,

No, no, no! I was certainly not taking you to task. If you came up with a similar idea that is great! I was only pointing out that I had not seen this approach before. And as I said, that does not mean it wasn't done. Just I never saw it myself.

Speaking of this kind of thing, let me relate an interesting story. I was talking to Danny Tong today. On my new videos I used a book test I credited to Danny, but he did not know the exact props I had used. When I told him it was a telephone directory he told me a funny story. After he developed his peek book test (which is what I gave him credit for on the videos) he told me he ran across the same effect using a telephone directory called Out of the Phone by Paul Curry. It was in the Phoenix and he had not heard of it before he came up with his version! So really, what I did on the videos was Curry's effect even though I credited Danny with it! But it was Danny who made this type of book test popular and inspired so many others.

The point is performers are always coming up with new stuff independently. So if you came up with the same idea as ODDS, congratualations. It is a great idea!

Richard
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On 2004-10-19 21:48, Richard Osterlind wrote:

I was talking to Danny Tong today. On my new videos I used a book test I credited to Danny, but he did not know the exact props I had used. When I told him it was a telephone directory he told me a funny story. After he developed his peek book test (which is what I gave him credit for on the videos) he told me he ran across the same effect using a telephone directory called Out of the Phone by Paul Curry. It was in the Phoenix and he had not heard of it before he came up with his version! So really, what I did on the videos was Curry's effect even though I credited Danny with it! But it was Danny who made this type of book test popular and inspired so many others.

Richard


Richard,
Danny is probably one of the unsung heroes of mentalism (at least he is in MY mind). I had the wonderful opportunity to spend some time with Danny a few years ago and added several pieces of fine magic and mentalism to my repertoire. I've performed his handling of the rising card hundreds of time since then.

If no one has ever seen it, Danny has a wonderful mentalism routine called "Astral Encore" that I've used in conjunction with a Boris Wild idea to great response.

Rick
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I have just got Essays from Ricahrd's website after hearing so many good comments.

I am so glad that recently many masters (Richard Osterlind, Banachek, Richard Busch, Tommy Wonder, Derren Brown,etc) of our art have shared their inner thoughts in the time of blooming of 'casual performers'. IMHO, people seriouly study our art definitely need to read/study their materials and re-think the nature of our art and WHAT OUR ART DESERVE.

Those who are dedicated to Magic/Mentalism are appreciated from hearts of our fellows.

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There are some comments on Essays I was going to mention that have been covered since I last visited, but here are a couple of observation of mine. One tip I found very useful was on the best time to perform the necessary calculations involved in some routines. This I had not really considered before. It really makes sense.

I am also currently working on presenting ODDS. The fact that it uses cards does not concern me. It is, as R.O. has emphasised before, simply a system. My main concern when starting out was my own ability (or rather lack of it) to draw all of the many items that could possibly be selected by the spectator.

My way of getting around this was to go to locate a large clipart collection and select all the items I needed from the list. "Corel Gallery Magic" has 65,000 drawings to choose from. You need basic outlines that can be drawn with a thick chalk. I use a whiteboard and a broard marker. I then drew each item several times until I could do it OK.

Some items on the original list were not so familiar here in New Zealand. I made a few minor changes, keeping in mind that each drawing had to be unique. For example Jack-O-Lantern became Jack-In-A-Box. We hardly ever use the term "automobile" so I may change that. I am not good at drawing animals and could substitue different words in those cases, but I am trying to keep with the original list as much as possible as it has been used by Richard over many years.

The aspect that appeals to me is that the designs when compared at the end of the routine are "almost" identical. A subtlety I find particulary realistic in this business.

If you have Essays and cannot draw very well, get out those clipart files and start practising your drawing.
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Hello!
I just wanna add my praise to the whole thread, saying: This is great Richard!

I also saw that Mesaboogie said he would perform it in the Café Royal. I so happened to notice the ad for the show, so I went down there yesterday. And I can tell you Mesaboogie did the drawing dup, it was excellent!

Cheers,
Chris
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Now this is an experience and a work in progress. I've reread parts of the 3 e-books and I actually focused on the part "of really believing myself thaht I do magic" and apply that to some effects just to see the outcome. And yes it works, my bodylanguage, my ability to misdirect grows stronger when I believe it myself.

Just for fun I now try to apply this to Vernons Cups and Balls routine. Now this has it all, vanishes, appearances, color changes etc. And combined you have to believe 25-30 times that you are doing real magic in a fast flow. Even in the opening sequence where you vanish 3 balls to make them reappear under the cups, I now sometimes fool myself. What fun that is. I showed it to my girlfriend knowing she has already seen it a lot of times. I told her I'd changed it, but I actually didn't change a thing in the routine - I just followed Richards words from Making Real Magic and Making Magic Real. An d guess what, she responded with great astonishment and told me it was wonderfull.

I mean how can it not be wonderfull, it's Dai Vernon at his best combined with Making Magic real.

Thanks Richard, It's simple wisdom but it is a truely new experience. I almost forgot mentalism for a while. And by the way I really loves the cups and balls and since I sometimes add some magic to my mental act, well who knows maybe one day I kick in cups and balls - just for the magic of it.

Now next step is handling things with grace and to "love" the audience. Stepwise I intend to improve and run through the great advice in these 3 e-books.
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On 2004-11-01 07:35, Vraagaard wrote:
Now this is an experience and a work in progress. I've reread parts of the 3 e-books and I actually focused on the part "of really believing myself thaht I do magic" and apply that to some effects just to see the outcome. And yes it works, my bodylanguage, my ability to misdirect grows stronger when I believe it myself.

Just for fun I now try to apply this to Vernons Cups and Balls routine. Now this has it all, vanishes, appearances, color changes etc. And combined you have to believe 25-30 times that you are doing real magic in a fast flow. Even in the opening sequence where you vanish 3 balls to make them reappear under the cups, I now sometimes fool myself. What fun that is. I showed it to my girlfriend knowing she has already seen it a lot of times. I told her I'd changed it, but I actually didn't change a thing in the routine - I just followed Richards words from Making Real Magic and Making Magic Real. An d guess what, she responded with great astonishment and told me it was wonderfull.

I mean how can it not be wonderfull, it's Dai Vernon at his best combined with Making Magic real.

Thanks Richard, It's simple wisdom but it is a truely new experience. I almost forgot mentalism for a while. And by the way I really loves the cups and balls and since I sometimes add some magic to my mental act, well who knows maybe one day I kick in cups and balls - just for the magic of it.

Now next step is handling things with grace and to "love" the audience. Stepwise I intend to improve and run through the great advice in these 3 e-books.



I want you to know how really gratified I am to read your post. The Vernon cups and balls is one of my favorite routines and I have often thought that if I could really believe each and every step of the routine, it would be the perfect effect.

I would love to see you do it some time.

Richard
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Dear Richard,

I totally agree. I've always perceived the cups and balls as the ultimate working effect. You constantly have to misdirect using fake takes, french drops, wand spin etc. It's a great lesson in magic that can be used in a lot of other situations. E.g. do we remember the first time we had to stand for 10 seconds with a palmed card and then to pretend that that card magically went from the deck to the four pockets (an Open traveller or card to pocket effect). How ackward it felt and how difficult it was for the mind to "forget" we were palming the card. After walking around with a card palmed through several days or a coin in classic palm during a full day it just started to feel natural. But from there "to making magic real" is still a giant step.

The cups and balls is an "exploding" routine constantly building up, and it definately challenges "the making magic real" approach you have lined out in your e-book. I'm at a level now where 70% percent of the routine is following that approach, and I'm still struggling with the final loads, because there you really need to think about the timing too. I've set my goal to get to 100% believing in every phase that I'm doing magic.

Richard, what are your thoughts about putting this magic effect into a a mental act? I know you sometimes produce a glass full of water, a newspaper or post-it tear and restore, a dollar bill in cigaret etc. I know Barrie Richardson has similar magic effect in his mental act too. What do you think about actually taking the cups and balls routine as a part of the act? Would that be a little to circus like - it could be done with a gambling story, and how magicians used the old three cups and one ball swindle to entertain rather than to gamble. Put in a context where you want to tell the audience never to bet money on that old swindle. A little bit along the line of Vernon.

Thanks for all the inspiration and for sharing a lifetime of working experience with us.

Jan
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