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Zach Allen Elite user 466 Posts |
Ben Morris-Rains has one that is pretty good, entitled As Good as It Gets. The Harkey one is pretty good as well. I have one in my Ignis Fatuus e-book, and there is one more that I know of, but can't remember the name of the inventor...
Zach PS. The best looking gimmicked versions of this type I've seen is John Cornielus' pen and MisLed.
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Jeff Inner circle Orlando, FL 1238 Posts |
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On 2004-10-30 11:26, vinsmagic wrote: Vinny, Try "Cocktail Bill Penatration" by Ken Kuroki on page 53 of Kaufmans 5X5 Japan.This is my favorite impromtu bill penrtration. Jeff Pierce
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chris mayhew Regular user Toronto ON, Canada 179 Posts |
David merry did a pen through bill that you can only do for magicians. You borrow a bill form a magician and then stab a pen through it and rip it and then say "woops wrong pen, oh well"I found it quite ammusing, but I find many things amussing. (like family guy, best show ever)
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arminio New user 6 Posts |
I just seen Dan Turcotte's "Pen Through Dollar Bill" ( http://www.youdomagic.com/x_pen_through.html ) - excellent approach to classic routine! Two nice deceptive moves to use classic gimmicked pen with bill in a closeup routine. Very effective and funny!
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blwrjw Regular user The Top of the Mountains 177 Posts |
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On 2004-11-12 01:03, fearless wrote: It's not just you, that really is funny! Barry
...before you go rushing off to show your friends a new field of miracles, you should get well acquainted with tools of the trade.
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paulsmagic Regular user 130 Posts |
There are different types because everyone looks for something new or different somehow. it is a good effect if performed properly. remember some people are logical and realize when a magician makes an elephant disappear, it really doesn't disappear. the same with the pen, they may think there is a gimmick but if performed properly with proper patter that is not an issue. magic is entertainment.
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joseph Eternal Order Please ignore my 17407 Posts |
I like Wonder Pen-tration, and I only do it once, poke pen thru, and visibly pull out, and hand both out. You might also try Mike Close's toothpick thru dollar as an alternative (Workers videos)....
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler." (Einstein)...
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chris mayhew Regular user Toronto ON, Canada 179 Posts |
I will stick to my good old misled, I like it because theres nothing fishy about a pencil (its wood)
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budzy Regular user 135 Posts |
I agree with fearless Tim Wenk's misled is the way to go, no need to switch anything
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Kaliix Inner circle Connecticut 1984 Posts |
I have to say that I wholeheartedly disagree with the ripped bill gimmick use. It is guilding the lilly. I have done the bill penetration hundreds of times (using the wonder pen) and even though there is a logical disparity in the penetration, everyone was convinced that the pen went through the bill.
Further, as already stated, the heat is on the bill after the effect. I would much prefer to cleanly pull the pen out of the bill and hold both of them there in front of the spectator. Every spectator is convinced the bill had a hole in it because everyone of them goes for the bill. While they are examining the bill, the gimmick is stripped of in case someone wants to inspect the pen. Usually though, they don't bother. Do a routine with whatever pen you choose and make the penetration and removal clean and direct and you don't need to bother with a ripped gimmick or worry about hiding the dirty pen straight away after the penetration. That justs begs people to think that your hiding something...and they're right.
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge.
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Perl Veteran user Taiwan 376 Posts |
There is a lot of pen thru something going on in the magic era.... are they all working on the same principle? or all of them are different? if they are the same, can the pen penetrate all other things like hands, tongue etc?
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bunkyhenry Special user NYC Metro 828 Posts |
You must find the right bills!
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ncsteve Veteran user North Carolina 313 Posts |
To answer the question from Perl-the pen can't penetrate anything thick like a hand or tongue but can go through (almost) anything that's thin.
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Dr. Faust Regular user Louisville, Kentucky 183 Posts |
I have the Exective Pen and, so far, I've mostly gotten great results with it. However, I must say that, by far and without exception, I get the best results doing the trick for children. I am a second-grade teacher, and my students absolutely love this trick! Magic in general is a great way to get children's attention and get them ready for learning in the classroom too. This particular trick is also one of the main reasons why my students believe I am REALLY magic. Because of this trick, they now think I can even stop the rain for recess. The great news is that, so far, luck has even allowed me to do that. Yes, my students can never get enough of this trick, they repeatedly ask me to do it, they repeatedly try to do it themselves (unsuccessfully, of course) and not once has any of them figured it out. So, I guess the value of any trick is in the effect it has on any particular audience, for any particular performer. I can see how it might not work for everyone and all audiences, but it sure does work for me. I've already gotten well beyond my $15.00 worth of value out of it.
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Avin New user Georgia 53 Posts |
While out searching for some stocking stuffers yesterday I happened across a copy of Karl Fulves's Self Working Coin Magic (now there's a misnomer for you!) as published by Dover. In amongst some fodder and silly stunts are hidden some very powerful effects. None are fully fleshed out, but with a bit of imagination there are some potential killers in there. Among them is a version of pen through bill that sounds remarkably similar to the one mentioned by Vinny earlier in this thread. A nice effect, and one I'd already decided to try out before reading through this topic. Glad to stumble across an endorsement. God, I love sychronicity!
BTW, the book sells for a lousy $6.95 at Barnes and Noble! A bargain at twice the price... Anthony |
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Loz Special user London 777 Posts |
Yeah I too recently re-read this book and its got a lot of gems stuffed in there between silly stuff, and as you said needs a bit of fleshing out, which is fun.
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Joe S. Loyal user Los Angeles, CA 272 Posts |
Regarding the "pen just screams GIMMICK" comment at the beginning. I used to feel that the heat naturally fell onto the pen, and that the penetration just looked fake.
Then I saw Dean Dill's presentation of this effect. He didn't change the method... just the moment. His handling placed ALL the heat on the bill (so much so that I missed the pen switch, and I KNEW what to look for! ;-) Just goes to show you that a great presentation can make every trick better. |
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Doug Higley 1942 - 2022 7152 Posts |
I use the line that I'm going to cause them to hallucinate and see something that really isn't there...do fast penetration (I use Executive pen and do hand it out) and since getting the "Center Tear" download from the Trickery have a great finish which when gone into immediately gives a nice impromptu presentation. ('Center Tear' is where you rip out the center (George) portrait...and do an instant restoration...clean hands and borrowed bill which is returned. Nice combo.
Doug
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magicandrew New user Australia 58 Posts |
It really depeds on how you peform it and in what situations. don't be fooled by how easy the gimmick is it still needs practise.
""Magic is your art handle it well""
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Adam Milestone Regular user 189 Posts |
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On 2004-11-10 17:54, h_A_Z wrote: Have you ever seen a child playing with a magnetic PEN and drawing board? Most people have and can put 2 and 2 together. In the 16 years that I've been performing Misled only ONE person thought the pencil had magnets in it. This happened just a few months ago and I was finally able to implement an idea I came up with years earlier should someone claim the pencil was gimmicked; I broke the pencil into several pieces and gave it to the inquiring spec as I then struck a “wrestling type” pose of strength and macho-ness which got some smiles. Almost every time I’ve used a pen (any of them really) at least one person thought it was magnets even if they couldn't find them, one specs exact words were "He's locked it so it won't come apart". I mainly perform in bars and what I've always loved about Misled is that I can borrow a bill and then ask them to wait a moment while I borrow something from the bar, then walk over to the bar and ask the bartender how the night is going or whatever and come back with my pencil that is so innocent that it needn't be cross-examined 'til your cross-eyed! I've heard excessive amounts of laymen over the years say "the pen has magnets" for me to use one. Besides, I like the second phase of Misled and the fact that both the bill and pencil are ungimmicked and can used as promotional items if one so desired. I think it's the audiences perception that pens are considered high tech in comparison with the very low tech wooden pencil, making it plausible in the specs mind that a pen could be gimmicked whereas a pencil flies in under radar every time as it is above suspicion from the get go. If you’re going to push something through a bill Timothy Wenk’s Misled is the way to go. |
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