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Andrew Loh
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Hi folks,

Just would like to share some opinions here, frankly Waving the Aces effect is not so easy to perform if compare to Dai Vernon's Twisting the Aces effect, how many of you here prefer to perform Vernon's effect or Hollingworth's effect?

I think, Hollingworth's version is very nice when you perform but in terms of handling, I think Vernon's version is more easier.

What is your opinion?

Thanks!

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On 2004-12-11 10:18, Andrew Loh wrote:
I think, Hollingworth's version is very nice when you perform but in terms of handling, I think Vernon's version is more easier.

What is your opinion?



I find that statement untrue. Just because Hollingworth uses the sleights that he chose, I use many different methods to reverse the cards that are much easier than the original handling. I'm still having trouble reversing the last card though which I'm still using the original method for. Other than that it isn't as hard as everyone says. I do think that Vernon's original is easier, but only because the effect itself is different, it isn't a visual twisting.
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Twisting the Aces and Waving the Aces are different effects.

Waving the Aces is much more visual, with a 'wave' of the hand a card reverses, not by counting through the cards like in Twisting the Aces.

It's worth practicing the sleight as it's also used in the Oil and Water effect in the book.
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Hi folks,

I wonder Hollingworth's false shuffle, is his alse shuffle practical in the word of card tricks?

I just glance through the book and just would like to collect some opinion regarding this shuffle.

Thanks!

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Of course it is practical.
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Hi folks,

Heinstein Shuffle and Hollingworth's version false shuffle quite alike, do you think it's necessary for me to purchase the Heinstein false shuffle DVD to learn this sleight?

I am appreciate of your opinion, thanks!

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Hmm I'd say they were completely different shuffles. I had DRD and then got Heinstein. I'm very glad I got the Heinstein video.
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Hi Loz,

Thanks of your reply!

May I know which one is more easier to execute?

Is it Heinstein Shuffle or Hollingworth's version?

Thanks!

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The two are very different but look exactly the same (both in the hands riffle shuffles). I like Hollingworth's over the Heinstein just because I'm better at it. Some people may be the exact opposite though. But what I do like about Hollingworth's shuffle over the Heinstein is the way that Michael Close uses it as an out if he messes up a faro shuffle.
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Guy false shuffle is really great. Once you get the hang of it you will use it a lot. Very practical and not the demanding once you know who to do it.


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As many people have already posted. Guy's book is fantastic. The tricks do demand a lot practice and work, but are well worth it. Even if you don't decide to use the slieghts or any of the tricks in the book, it is still a good read. It helps you to get inside one of magics most creative people. Also the cover of the book make it look like its an older classic book. Also to recap. Yes the Heinstein shuffle and guy's shuffle are two different suffles. They two don't have anything in common beside they are in the hands shuffle. As for which is better it really depends. Guy's needs a cut after it, the Heinstein shuffle needs to be done twice, or from a break. So really it depends what your after. Also I found the explanation for reformation not to be that difficult.
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I find the Heinstein easier. I am fundamentally against cuts after riffle shuffles with bridges. I just think people can work out that you strip. Even when I saw Guy's wonderful shuffling and dealing demo recently on TV, his false riffle shuffle followed by, what was to me, an obvious strip out, just spoilt it. I guess laypeople probably don't see it, but I do. Same goes for those Lennart Green shuffles that involve a strip out. I loathe it. Heinstein doesn't need it, nor does Lennart Green's 'Green shuffle'.

Also, for me, the Heinstein is easier than Guy's. But that's just me.
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Hi folks,

Anyway, I will try to look at these 2 false shuffles, I understand that different person has different opinions as well as their abilities in a sleights or techniques. Smile

Anyway, thanks for the reply.

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