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Owen Thomas Special user 504 Posts |
Has anybody got advice about palming coins and make your hand look more normal.
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NickJegor Elite user Lithuania 466 Posts |
About coin palming no!
Try some Tenkai move it works for me! Do you know something about card manipulation!?! |
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paulajayne Inner circle London England 1160 Posts |
Owen
Practice and more practice I'm afraid. Paula
Paula Jay - Magic to Remember -
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hkwiles Special user Howard Wiles 797 Posts |
Like most things..playing guitar, piano etc,etc...practice and practice and it suddenly happens.
Howard |
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Werner G. Seitz Inner circle 3131 Posts |
Unfortunately some size of hands are not *good* enough compared to other sizes of hands, and actually I found out this doesn't even depend on the size of the coin used..
Some have the 'gift', apart from they have practised, to have an incredible natural handposition when doing a classic palm..some have a slightly less casual and natural handposition.. IF you're on of those with the right shape of hand for a casual classic palm..congrats..there are not too many.. IF not, don't worry, you still can do a descent classic palm and nobody will suspect anything, as long as you handle it well.. My own classicpalm -due to handsize and shape- could be much better/give a more natural look of the hand, but nevertheless I don't worry..and time has proven I get away with it without any probs..so don't worry to much, just practise..
Learn a few things well.....this life is not long enough to do everything.....
( Words of wisdom from Albert Goshman ...it paid off for him - it might as well for YOU!!!- My own magic is styled after that motto... ) |
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KirkG Inner circle 1391 Posts |
I would say practice is NOT the answer. Proper Practice of the correct technique is. I have found I was classic palming incorectly for over 30 years. Although it didn't look bad, it now looks better.
Find a good technician to review your technique and then practice. I recommend Dan Watkins site for some excellant teaching vids. Kirk G. |
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h_A_Z Special user Ireland/Msia 701 Posts |
Try palming the whole day while doing your daily routine (except for driving!). Practice practice practice!
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what Special user Lehi, UT, USA 643 Posts |
Be sure to visit Dan Watkins web site http://www.coinvanish.com and click on the Foundations section. He has the best explanation that I have ever seen of the classic palm. When I started palming, I was doing a number of things incorrectly, Dan's site corrected me.
Enjoy! Mike
Magic is fun!!!
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Doug Peters Special user I have a life, so I only have 591 Posts |
Depending on the size and shape of your hands, there will be different palms that are appropriate for different coins. If your fingers taper significantly, you should work to develop a good classic palm. On the other hand, if your fingers are relatively thick, consider using the finger palm (a la Ramsay). If your classic palm is making the hand look too cramped, try using a larger coin.
regards, Doug
"if you have any answers, it's time to ask harder questions!"
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NickJegor Elite user Lithuania 466 Posts |
Dan Watkins site is good!
Go to visit! |
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mike gallo Inner circle 1341 Posts |
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On 2004-11-20 15:21, h_A_Z wrote: Practice even while driving. However, should you drop the coin...leave it on the car floor until you get to where you are going!!! Mike |
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Doug Peters Special user I have a life, so I only have 591 Posts |
If you want to practice while driving but don't want the pain of dropping coins into impossible-to-reach locations, try the following:
Before starting the car, put a clear plastic bag over the hand holding the coin. Put an elastic around the bag at your wrist. Now you can palm the coin while driving, and if it falls, it will not get lost. regards, Doug
"if you have any answers, it's time to ask harder questions!"
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cloneman Elite user 474 Posts |
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On 2004-11-20 20:48, Doug Peters wrote: And when the officer stops you because you're driving with a bag on your hand, and you explain it's to catch the coins that keep falling from your classic palm, try not to complain too much as he orders you out of your car for a breathalyzer test.
"Anything is possible... if you don't know what you are talking about."
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Werner G. Seitz Inner circle 3131 Posts |
Quote: And rightfully so!!
On 2004-11-20 22:38, cloneman wrote: We all know, that a plasticbag around ones hand (just try the plasticgloves at gasolinstations) makes ones hand incredible sweety as no air is entering and you also loose the safe grib on the steeringwheel..so don't use this kind of foolishness!! Don't know how in the States, but when they pack potatoes in plasicbag in the shops, note, they are wet and sweeting...even done to potatoes, this should be prohibited.. Doug Peters must be joking re that tip..he should try to wear plasticgloves when juggling..
Learn a few things well.....this life is not long enough to do everything.....
( Words of wisdom from Albert Goshman ...it paid off for him - it might as well for YOU!!!- My own magic is styled after that motto... ) |
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Dark Elite user 406 Posts |
Try driving gloves
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Dan LeFay Inner circle Holland 1371 Posts |
Finding the most natural looking grip is a matter of personal physique. What always shows up for me is the fact that the thumb is always flexed inward while classic palming. To prevent this I hold my hand with the thumbside away from the spectators.
Also relax at the wrist. The hand should normally have some kind of dropping position if it is not holding something. Most important thing is that as long as the palming hand is, as part of the arm, moving as if it does not hold anything, this will not draw any attention to the hand itself. Even if it is a little cramped. Doing little things with the hand while it classicpalms a coin is a good excersise. -putting a cap on and of a pen. -write something. -rearrange some silverware on a table. -Put objects in and out of your pockets. -Open and close coin-purses. -Pull up sleeves. -Turn over or gently reposition someones hand. -Pick up a glass to drink from it. -Shake hands with someone! In physical therapy there is a rule that says: If you want to train some specific motor-skills, just train those specific movements! In other words, you can lift weights if you are a tennisplayer or a footballplayer, but it will never make you s better player. If you want to be good at CP-ing practise it in the circumstances you want to do it. So unless you want to perform while driving, it's rather useless...;-)
"Things need not have happened to be true.
Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths, that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot." Neil Gaiman |
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Magius Regular user 136 Posts |
Wouldn't it train the same muscles though?
However, holding things while Classic Palming may be bad, it could get you used to cramping your hand. Just continuously palm. Yes, you will drop coins, disturbing others and looking like a fool. And, yes, people will begin to hate you. But as an outcast, it never mattered to me. No, I wasn't serious. Try to catch the coins before they drop, you can feel it coming.
Neophyte.
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Werner G. Seitz Inner circle 3131 Posts |
>-Turn over or gently reposition someones hand.
An example re this is what I often do.. After a throw/toss pass from right to left (left NOT closing around the coin, but supposingly catching it between the fingers and thumb) coin in right classic palm now, the left reaches over to the spec with a *pls. hold it for a moment*, and he opens his right hand to receive it palm up ..and it has gone.. I immediately grasp his thumb (his right hand is palm up) SLIGHTLY pulling his thumb outwards, whilst my right (with the coin palmed) grasps his little finger the same way and so steadying his hand, eg. drawing out his fingers ( thunb and littlefinger) slightly, whilst apparently stearing at his empty hand.. Next is, a *I don't know either where it is*, with a shrugging motion of my shoulders, at the same time withdrawing and opening both of my hands palm up and raising 'em to almost shoulder heights/level.. Coin is lying falt on the REALLY opened right.. They can't se it, done standing up...as it is above their eye level..it's an old ruse... Turning the hand palm down, the coin is regripped in classicpalm, WITHOUT any help of any finger.. Just a comment re Dan's suggestion and one example of applying his suggestion.. I also sometimes flet my finger a spilt second whilst having the coin palmed in the right with a remark *where can it be?* , and thereafter immediately producing it from the specs clothing.
Learn a few things well.....this life is not long enough to do everything.....
( Words of wisdom from Albert Goshman ...it paid off for him - it might as well for YOU!!!- My own magic is styled after that motto... ) |
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Jaz Inner circle NJ, U.S. 6111 Posts |
A loose thumb palm or fingertip rest works.
I'm not great when it comes to the Classic Palm but use the palm in the attached photo. The coin is tucked behind the web between thumb and forefinger. I have to watch angle a bit but this grip allows me to move freely, pick up items, etc, even with 3 or 4 coins. Click here to view attached image. |
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Werner G. Seitz Inner circle 3131 Posts |
Quote: That looks nice, but it's not a normal thumb palm..
On 2004-11-21 11:35, Jaz wrote: That's the Ramsay palm (not to be confued with the Ramsay concealment) also called the Drobina palm, or the Murata (IIRC) palm
Learn a few things well.....this life is not long enough to do everything.....
( Words of wisdom from Albert Goshman ...it paid off for him - it might as well for YOU!!!- My own magic is styled after that motto... ) |
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