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bobser
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Strange as it may seem, for some reason I have never got round to purchasing any DVD's of Max Maven.
I would appreciate any recommendations from you guys.
Many thanks,
Bobser.
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It depends on what you aim at, but personnaly, from the videomind set, my favourite is the "parlor mentalism" dvd.

If you have any questions about it, just ask.
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I think his book test on the DVD is great and "the mockingbird" has a very clever principle. There is a lot of great items on the DVD, however when it get to my performance I rarely include any of his DVD material. SO all though impressive I don't find to be using it much. Is it just me???
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Bobser
I think that part of the value in the work is paying attention to the subtleties of performance, the way the man works the room.
The how to for the effects, the "story line", these are things we all have in great abundance. Who out there does not have that box or three of magical stuff just waiting in the back closet.
This is not to say that the material or methods Max uses are not ingenious, he is a consummate thinker in the magical arts. My opinion on the videos is they are good on more than one level. His manipulation of humans and the audience is extremely educational.

Anyway, my 2bits worth!
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Wasn´t there talk on the board about a new DVD set from Maven a while ago ?
Anyone knows if / when it is coming ?
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Thanks guys.
Kaytracy I agree, but did you have a recommendation for me?
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All 3 of the videomind DVD's are good. The close-up and parlour are probably the most practical for the casual performer.

It's not Derren Brown style mind-blowing stuff, more mental magic but it's good.

The methods are based on the usual methods (equivoque, stacks, muliple outs etc) but are often quite ingenious in their combination.

They are well within the reach of most performers. I suspect he's offering out his most basic stuff here. Some of them you could perform almost immediately. I find his performance quite camp and amusing and not remotely convincing (in terms of thining that he might be psychic).
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But remember Max is brilliant with a real,live theatre
audience,part of what makes Derren look so good is with a little help from the editing suite!.I do find Max more entertaining,I mean explaining how you are doing things by psycology is a good idea....but not with EVERYTHING!
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I saw Max lecture last week in L.A. and there was mention of I believe two new dvds that will be out probably next year.

It could be one dvd that is 4 hours or 2 two hour dvds.
A lot of material!!!

Maybe Max will come along and clarify for us.
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There is something coming from Max and the premise is a d**n good one so wait for it.
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Greg,
any idea what the effect will be?
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It's not the effect, but the whole idea behind the DVD.

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Don't overlook Zenvelopes!!

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On 2004-11-24 01:41, Greg Arce wrote:
There is something coming from Max and the premise is a d**n good one so wait for it.
Greg


That sounds great, because I have a feeling that Max Maven has much better material than the material on the Videomind series.

Looking forward to that.
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Max is undoubtedly one of the greatest knowledgeable, original and performing artist of mentalism. The best is yet to come.
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A lot of people feel that some of his best work was released in the color series. Hence their high prices.

I will also add that I am reluctantly parting with one set of guaranteed originals. Currently on ebay. Just search for seller: bradhenderson.

It is an investment in material you will not regret.
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Max has said it himself. The best material he develops he keeps for himself. The rest he publishes. Once in a while, a piece from his repetoire he chooses to drop, or is getting increasingly copied, may make its way onto a tape or into a pamphlet, but generally, he keeps the top-shelf items for himself. As he should.

What he IS generous enought to share is the thinking behind the creations. That's what you should be buying anyway. The "tricks" are great, but if you understand how and why they were created, and the reasons behind the presentations, then you can (it is presumed) go out and create better material for yourself.

To criticize the tricks without taking into consderation the thinking behind them is wrong-headed.

For example, from the color series, "Four-sided Triangle", by itself, is a strong piece of performance material, but if you apply the thinking behind it, you open up a world of opportunity for yourself. Using the ideas, you can then create something for yourself that's truly exceptional. To perform it verbatim from the book does a disservice to both yourself and the material.

Magic and mentalism books and DVDs must be considered less as an assortment of secrets and scripts for tricks and more as teaching texts that help lead the reader/viewer to higher truths and self-discovery about themselves.

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One of the interesting facts about the color series is that it does contain material that Max used. It is my understanding that the series was written at a time before he adopted the policy you described, and I have even heard that he may have regretted putting some of the material which he did into the color series.
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I'm sure you're right.

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I thought his Videomind Parlor was good. The Videomind Stage was fair. I really was looking forward to his take on Tossed Out Deck (Tossed out Tech) along with the in-depth analysis. He does go into it in great depth, which I do appreciate, but to me It didn't really seem an improvement.
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