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puffinmonkey
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Hi I'm just interested in getting into ball manipulation and I was looking at Vernet Multiplying Balls. Do I have to buy the original Vernet Multiplying Balls in order to use the Multiplying Ball Climax Vernet? or could someone recommend me to soemthing else to get me started. thanks
Regan
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The Vernet set is a good beginners set. Fakini's are the best, but they are quite costly. The Four-Ball Climax is used in conjunction with the regular multiplying balls set.

Hope this helps.

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If the vernet balls I am thinking of are the metal looking ones they are very neat. I wish they were made bigger and in a quality for the working pro.
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The spikiness of the vernet balls allows for a greater grip and makes it much easier to learn. However, those same spikes make it very difficult to incorporate silks into your routine. I also find that the vernets look great in the dealers showcase, but they are not very visible on stage. For just a little more, I would highly recommend the Fakini's with the four ball climax.
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I would go with Fakini. I use the inch and three
quarter size. Have a set of red and one in white.
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Once upon a time I bought a one inch set of wooden billiards. I really wanted a set of those Fakini balls. They not only bounce but the bright colors are great.

I had just read the Downs book, The Art of Magic and wanted to try those routines.

I also was in the process of reading C. Lang Neil's book The Modern Conjuror.

I also misread things occasionally. It happens.

Now you know where something started. And if you take the time to follow what was outlined and implied, you are all but set for some very nice billiard magic.
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Fakini. No question about it. You'll never regret spending the money. I have them in white and yellow. They are a pleasure to work with. You will progress much quicker with them rather than wood.

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I personally don't like the Vernet set. I don't like the weight (too light) or the way they feel between my fingers. I have much more control with the...you guessed it...Fakini set.

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Here is a question. Why are the Vernet's SO MUCH MONEY? 150.00 for a few balls. I know they are the Holy Grail of Billiard Balls, but why so pricey. What features do they have that make them so much better than my 25.00 set?
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Christopher Moro
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Are the Vernet's really going for that much these days!? My goodness that's expensive. May as well get Fakini's for that price. Vernet's are nice because they are shiny and easier to grip than wooden balls, but Fakini's are the easiest to grip of all and I don't think the sparkle is all that important. The main thing is if you can see the balls from stage and that has more to do with size than anything else.
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Vernets are that much? Heck I would MUCH rather spend that money on Fakinis and even weight for them if I had to. Fakinis are just that much better in my own mind and experience. I have used both and Fakinis by far out play the Vernets for several reasons.

- Vernets hurt the fingers cause of the edges
- Vernet's will chip if dropped
- Vernets do not bounce but Fakinis will
- Vernets do not have a great enough grip that I can get from Fakinis
- You can not do some of the more advanced moved as easily with Vernets as you can with fakinis.

This is just my own humble opinion.

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On 2004-12-10 14:13, Rob Johnston wrote:
Here is a question. Why are the Vernet's SO MUCH MONEY? 150.00 for a few balls. I know they are the Holy Grail of Billiard Balls, but why so pricey. What features do they have that make them so much better than my 25.00 set?


Vernet sets sell for less than $25. It is the Fakini sets that sell for around $150. There are other sets that sell for close to $300.

And speaking of such things, does anyone have a set of white Mikame billiard balls that they might be willing to sell me? Stevens was selling these but they now only have them in red.

I posted this in the "tricks for sale" section but thought I would mention it here also.
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I would also recommend the Fakini's. The only other thing I would mention (especially as you're going to spend a lot of money on rubber balls) is to make sure you get the size right. If you're just starting, you might find the one and three quarter inch balls a bit big. Personally, I would recommend starting with one and a half inch. Even better, if you can get to a magic shop they'll be able to show you different sizes - they might not have the Fakini's but they will have other makes.

Anyone else got any thoughts on the best size manipulation balls for beginners?
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I would also go with the 1 3/4 inch. They wrok great for beginners and fit the hand quite well no matter the size of the hand. They also work well for stage work and the white ones can be seen for a long distance. I still use 1 3/4 white Fakinis in my stage show.

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My hands a very small and I started with the 1 3/4 inch. It wasn't very long before my fingers were used to them. So I agree that this is a good size. However, the larger the better. And I too agree with magic4u02 that the white colored balls seem to show up better on stage.
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