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nostrings
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I have been digging through tarbell, Malini's stuff in various locations, I don't want to do jeff hobsons routine I know to many people who have copied it, the classic stuff I've been reading is all good but I'm really looking for someone who does a more modern egg bag routine? Any ideas
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You must first ask yourself... which came first..the chicken or the egg bag..
THOUGHTfully,

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Get the egg bag video produced by Stevens Magic Emporium. I use the routine by Martin Lewis, on that video, and I won a magic contest doing just that routine. There are other great routines on the video, too.
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I'll second what Alan said. Get the Steven's video. It has great material on it.
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If you like to tell a story with your egg bag, try "The Siamese Goose Egg Bag" performance script by Ron Bauer.

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Stevens Magic is offering "The Egg Bag Book," see http://www.stevensmagic.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=4828

I have not seen this book and so can't comment on it, but based on the description, it might be what you're looking for. SETH
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I forgot to mention the egg bag I use. It's a Tarbell bag that can be found at http://www.dazzlingmagic.com. It handles extremely well!
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I know longer use the bag, I use PBE by Chris Pilsworth
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If ypu can find the eggbag dvd from gazzo then buy that. Highly recommended.
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I helped Ken Brooke write the Malini handling, but when I saw GAZZO do the bag he BAFFLED ME.
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Classic Secrets of Magic by Bruce Elliot....has a routine where you end up pulling 5 or 6 eggs from the bag. I use to do it, it is good, and nobody else does it anymore. You can get the KOBO e-book for around 5 bucks.

There is also a book that came out a few years back....just on magic with eggs. There's a separate section on the eggbag.

Also I believe Ross Bertram in one of his books does an egg bagg routine with a plain good ol' silk.
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On Sep 18, 2017, Stperformer wrote:

Also I believe Ross Bertram in one of his books does an egg bagg routine with a plain good ol' silk.


Don't remember a silk being used with Ross Bertram. He does have a very short Egg Bag routine in his 1st book. His idea to make the egg appear at the top of the bag is genius. He uses the Mardo or Tarbell type Egg Bag.

Missed it completely, until Martin Lewis put it in his Mardo Egg Bag DVD. Kind of trick to do with Malini style bags.
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Ross Betram's move for making the egg appear at the top of the bag works equally well with a Malini bag....
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JNeal, I found it more difficult, to keep the egg from not sliding out and crashing to the floor. I believe it is do to the material. Otherwise, it has to be more controlled as it rises, slowing down the smoothness, for me anyway.
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Bazar de Magia Malini Egg Bag with DVD

There has been some misconceptions concerning the Malini Egg Bag made by Bazar de Magia. So much so, I obtained one myself to see if the claims are true. I could not believe such an established manufacturer of magic props would make a product that was not workable.

Bazar de Magia makes a good quality Malini Egg Bag, that will accomplish the job for most "curious" magicians that want to see and find out if this is a routine and presentation that will fit with them.

I have to admit, I have owned all of egg bags over the years, and handled many having worked in a local magic shop. I had only periodically included an Egg Bag presentation in my shows over the last 50 years 60 years. As a youth and teenager, I was not the excited about the egg bag, and thus only used it for filler.

I now know why I thought that way. It was because, I did not know a good routine, and handling of the bags. There is so much more the putting an egg in a cloth bag and showing it has disappeared, only to reappear by removing it.

It was not until the Malini Egg Bag was put on the market by Charlie Miller, that it looked more interesting. But I still did not purchase it, that is, until the late great trust worthy Ken Brooke of London, England started selling and advertising it. I had dealt with Ken Brooke by mail order for several years, and trusted him completely when he recommended and offered magic effects for sale.

I sent off my check, and he returned it, because he was against copying other creator's work. His letter explained that he would only sell his Ken Brooke and Friends work on the Malini Egg Bag, but the bag would have to purchased from the American dealer Magic Inc., Chicago, Ill. I immediately ordered the Malini Egg Bag from Magic Inc. and set off another check to England for the manuscript.

When receiving Charlie Miller's instruction’s, they were kind of scarce in the handling, just an several page booklet, on the routine. No detail handling for showing the bag, or handling of the spectators. It took me a long time to realize that true magic is in the details for handling of a prop, and the patter to get the most out of any magic effect.

When the manuscript came in the mail, I read it through, and buckled down to absorb the material. Reading and studying it 10 times, with prop in my hands. English words and what mean are very different then what I was used to, being brought up in the Midwest. To be honest, I did not understand the meaning of what was to be said. Ken Brooke even detailed the exact hand movements in handling the bag. Later, I would realize these hand moves were how to show the bag empty and letting the spectator take a close look, and feel the bag themselves. There was a reason for every move and word used during the presentation.

When I started performing it, I had many "Aa Ha" moments, I was so stund to realize and connect the meanings of every word and why it was used an placed in the routine at that moment.

This realization made me become a true believer in the power of the Egg Bag.

Bazar de Magia, offering comes with a DVD. All this for only $25.00 is really a great to see if this prop is something you would be interested in presenting to your audiences.

The bag is not made from the crepe material, but a sort of medium weight lining material, this material has the non-wrinkle feature that crepe material also provides. Very light weight, and opaque.

I have read on the Café, some members want to use a larger egg, Bazar de Magia’s bag has a larger opening for use of even an extra large sizw egg.

I have also read that some purchaser’s say this is a “Left Handed Bag”, this concerned me, and one of the main reasons I wanted to find out for myself.

I would like to inform the uninformed that this Malini Egg Bag is not what would be called, “a left handed bag.” This assumption was most likely made, because they did not get the Ken Brooke and friends manuscript. This feature was most likely provided by Charlie Miller, for those that used his description in his routine. As scanty as it is provided.

One feature missing from the bag this discussion is covering, is the feature, that tells if the performer has the bag in the proper orientation to begin the effect. I personally have never used this feature, because if you follow Ken Brooke’s instruction for the set up of the bag for presentation, the performer would never need to check this feature. If a person believes he would like this feature, a simple single stitch with a knot he can easily feel, would suffice.

I believe the bag was sold as a single item previously, I could be wrong, but I was surprised to see a DVD provided, I do not remember it being mentioned in older advertisements.

The DVD provided is of a personality in magic in South America, he has a routine that takes bits from various sources, and combines them into his presentation of this effect. I can’t say it is superior to or equal to the Ken Brooke instruction, but it would give a starting point to begin an egg bag routine, and how to interact with spectators.

The DVD is dubbed voice over that is very well synchronized to his lip movement and actions. One of the better created voice over DVDs I have seen, so you are not distracted by other sounds, during the learning process.

They also explain how to blow an egg, their version, which is different then the way I learned how to do it, is provided. It is also not the provided method Charlie Miller describes in his instructions. He uses an ear syringe, making it possible to use only one puncture in the egg.

I hope this clears up the misconceptions and wrongly posted comments that have been made on the Café over the years.

I would recommend the Bazar de Magia Malini Egg bag for the curious magicians seeking to try something new. You can’t look at this prop and say if it will be a good trick or not. As it is not the prop, but the way you handle, present, and interact with all the elements involved.

How many times have members on the Café, post for instructions to a prop. They know nothing of what it is, or what it does. Why, because the needed the printed instructions. The instructions are actually worth more then the prop in most cases. Otherwise, it is something to set on a shelf and admire. That is not what magic props are for in my opinion.

$25.00 is a good price in this day and age in magic.

Other Malini Egg Bags sell from $40.00, $85.00, to $100.00 or more. The reason for the price is mainly using expensive cloth materials, along with expert seamstress work. Actually, as mentioned previously, these features have little to do with the entertainment value of the effect. I only heard on magician comedian ever say to an audience, this prop cost me $500 and that is all it does. He gets a laugh, but they said nothing about the price, no applause at all.

Final note: Do you want your bag to bellow open, so insertion of your hand and the spectators are easier, and the egg will not stuck in the folds of the cloth. The secret is to turn the bag inside out, and cut a cardboard insert to fit in the bag while it inside out. This will cause the bag to open or bellow out to facilitate easier handling and production of the egg.

I must be crazy to tell all these secrets for free, this is to good of an effect to just give this information publicly for free.
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Bill,
That is a very complete and succinct analysis of the Malini Egg Bag.
The routine is everything!
I've made literally hundreds of Malini Egg Bags; Polyester, Rayon, Silk, Large Small and extra small... and the details matter, but not as much as some are led to believe.
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I was privileged to assist Ken Brooke writing the Malini egg bag instructions. I can tell you Ken's work and descriptions may be the best instructions for any routine ever written. I have closed shows with it.
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I feel the Hobson egg bag is way above the others. It feels better and works better, the quality of the bag itself is the absolute best.. His tips on performing the egg bag are excellent also
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For those who aren't familiar with or who have not seen his routine, here is a clip of Marin Lewis doing the Senor Mardo Egg Bag: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiV64HDEN-k#t=6.7773018

And here is a clip of Jay Marshall doing his egg bag routine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNiafQ3fF1E

Please note that both of these fine, seasoned performers are using old-school plaid, Tarbell-Type egg bags. Each performer interjects his own style into the bit. The STYLE and Personality of the performer is what SELLS the bit.

It's the same thing for a Malini-style bag, too. This is a trick about an EGG....not a BAG.....the bag does not matter...

What does matter is ENTERTAINING with it...........My point being....WORRY LESS ABOUT WHAT EGG BAG PROP IS "BEST"..........WORRY MORE ABOUT DEVELOPING A KILLER ROUTINE WITH IT.
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Who is worrying about the type of bag? people should be able to ask about the differences of various bags without being scolded.
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