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Hi guys.

The effect - 8 Xmas presents are on view with different types of wrapping paper. 7 specs all select a present, one is left for me. They all open their gifts and find nice presents. I open mine to reveal a VERY nice present.

This is the bare bones of the effect, which I am working on, based on an idea from a Spellman DVD.

I initially thought of having some Xmas cards which are selected, opened and inside it reads 'Have a great Christmas and enjoy your present - the one with the red bow on.' Or something similar.

I HATE Spellman's method for this type of effect, so it would be great if you guys could suggest something better.

Bearing in mind this will be performed around a table.

Thanks a lot.

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Pateo, OR, wrap one of them up in bHs paper. Smile
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Not enirely useful, but thanks anyway Smile
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Or Pateo force (marked) card envelopes that contain a Xmas card indicating one of the IDENTICALLY wrapped presents (perhaps a gift tag on each of the presents has a seasonal sticker on it that matches a sticker in each of the forced cards).

This will give you another seemingly random event or at least a degree of apparent separation.

You could also mix and match pateo and classic eqivoques to end up with each person opening a present that looks identical on the outside but has a personal message or present inside! An 8-way Christmas miracle! WOO HOO!!!

Does that make sense?
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Surely using pateo on 7 people would just be taking the p*ss! Smile

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You could try modifying Ted Lesley's Black Magic - that would be ok I think Smile
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Use an equivoque to break them into 2 smaller chunks first maybe? Yours could be in the second group. Then pateo?
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Hi Withnail,

Any futher info?

I don't really have time to buy books and read up as the performance will be this Friday. I am already doing selected items from my repertoire but I thought that I could use this as a nice finish to produce gifts for my work colleagues.

Thanks

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If you know Maven Method used in "goal mine", I suggest you use this one.

Each spectator chooses one enveloppe, and THEY open it to find inside a christmas card.

BTW, I like your idea for christmas Smile
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Is this method suitable for 8 people? I can either have 8 cards for 8 people or 4 cards for 4 couples.

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Well, obviously I can't tip methods else I'd be tarred and feathered before you could say "exposure" Smile

Paramiracles (I think) if you can get a copy on DVD has all the info you need.

Basically you get a spectator to number x amount of black envelopes (hence the name), say 1 through to 7.

Then people call out numbers and the envelopes are opened one at a time.

Needless to say, they all contain cards saying which present is theirs (socks, bath salts, etc.) and the one envelope you're left with contains the keys to the Ferrari.

Hope this helps Smile
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Gary, the Maven method is suitable for any number of participants.

It's simple, bold, but really effective.
It allows you to focus on presentation, and there's no fear of something going wrong I think.

Mr OSterlind has also a pretty similar approach in his Bank Night effect.
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Yeah you could bank nite envelopes containing descriptions of gifts. But I sense you are after something more direct.

How about you keep the gifts small and just switch the nice one in? Have everyone wait to open theirs at the same time (all the gifts same size, same gift inside even) and do the switch while they are busy opening?

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I did consider a switch but it just isn't practical.

Ideally, I want each person to 'select' a present and one at a time open them. They will have nice presents in.

Then there will be one present left in full view, which I obviously open.

Any ideas?

Thanks a lot guys

Gary
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Ok, can you use multiple outs and not make the present "nicer", just more obviously YOU? Or does it have to be an "I win" scenario? I am not critizing your idea, just trying to find out more about your requirements.

By the way, if you are looking for a good christmas effect, do consider the prediction in christmas cracker angle. It is fun and strong.

/Bamba
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Enveloppes containing a Xmas card with the colour of the wrapping paper written on it. Each spectator gets the gift with the matching wrapping paper. The performer gets the remaining Xmas card.
That's what you get with the Maven method

But sure, if you look for a direct selection of the gifts,whithout the xmas cards, that won't suit.
But I think the Xmas cards is a nice touch for the general looking of the effect and the entertainement value.
But Bambaladam switching method is also a good idea if you want to avoid the Xmas cards.
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Is the Maven method on Videomind? Do you know?


Also, in my performance, each person will get a bottle of wine (or similar drink), the last present (mine) will contain just an empty glass, to which I will ask who would like to pour me a drink.


Or something like that, I wont be doing the 'I win, you lose' style performance, definitely not me!

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Max Mavens bank nite routine is on videomind, yes.

That could work, if you're ok with people choosing envelopes instead of the gifts.

My idea with multiple outs was that you could make it look like you meant to get what you ended up with no matter what you do end up with. As long as you are subtle and clever, you can remind them of ONE thing you mentioned earlier (and conveniently ignore SEVEN things you mentioned earlier) that obviously mean you meant you would end up with the gift you then proceed to open.

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The Maven method is on videomind, the parlor dvd I think.
The effect is called "Goal Mine".

The method will allow you to get the needed "gift" whith no risk of failure.
So using another approach than the "I win you loose" is totally up to you.
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OR

The kismet force (this is in compleat invocation, more than once, also in Punx once upon a time) with the prerecorded message with instructions (move santa's little helper three steps and so on) Just let each player make one move and then pick up their present.

In fact, if you let Santa write the letter to the players, this becomes immensely cute. I think I will do it myself for all my nephews and nieces.

/Bamba
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