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peterng25 New user 90 Posts |
True story: The other night, the kid comes home (slamming the front door). On sheer impulse, I said: "Have you stopped speeding, and started driving more rationally? Tell you what, if I shuffle and tell you what card comes up, will you try?".
I picked up the deck of cards from the table. Now, this may sound incredible, but it is a perfectly normal, unprepared and unmarked in any way. I overhand shuffle it 3 or 4 times, saying: "Three of Spades!". On the 4th shuffle, I turn the deck over, and it is the 3 of S. I couldn't believe it myself, but just played along, looking him in the eye, milking the moment for all it was worth. I think it was just a wonderful coincidence, or just maybe, when you care enough for someone, your secret resources come to the rescue. |
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johne Special user 960 Posts |
Mikael...I find that happens a lot to me. Something else that seems to happen to me a lot is this I'll try to describe.
I'll be in a shopping center, and for some strange reason think I recognize someone from my past. On closer inspection, I realize it was not them, but someone that looked somewhat similar. A few minutes to several minutes later, I wlil indeed run into the person I THOUGHT I had seen earlier. Pretty weird situations. John E. |
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mormonyoyoman Inner circle I dug 5,000 postholes, but I have only 2440 Posts |
The difference between real life and fiction, is that fiction has to stick with what's possible.
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caubeck Elite user 412 Posts |
For what it's worth, and for whichever interpretation you prefer to give it, let me say that in my experience this happens a great deal with numbers, less with place names, and quite a lot with multiple choice questions, yet hardly ever with simple yes/no answers, personal names or colours. The word enters my head about a second or two before the event. It happens in real life and with the radio, but not with TV, computers or in texts. I don't connect it with bumping into people in the street that I'm thinking of, or with sensing who's about to phone me up, or anything like that. It's a definite "moments before the event" event.
I don't really want to go into this any more here, but I wanted to explain this much. I've looked into deja vu, hearing voices, etc. and have found no parallel in academic writings. Like Mikael, I do not see a way to test it, though at school I did answer direct questions correctly based on these "impulses." The phenomenon has mainly gone away now, whatever it is. |
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Mikael Eriksson Inner circle None of your business 1064 Posts |
I'm glad there are so many replies.
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One way to disprove the fact your brain is playing tricks on you, would be to state the info out loud prior to it being heard on the radio. My thought comes to close in time to do this effectively. Banacheck wrote: Quote:
Also keep in mind, if it is advertising, your subconcious mind has probably heard that commercial in the background before adding somewhat to the experience as well. The times this happens with the TV or radio it's news reporting. Slim King wrote: Quote:
When this occurs you should take note of the time of day, your diet at the time, drinking or not If by drinking you mean alcohol, I don't use it. Slim King wrote: Quote:
Exactly what is the difference between what you experience and Deja Vu? It feels totally different. In Deja Vu you get a feeling you have heard it before but you don't know when or in what situation, and you feel very strange, in the other situation you get a crystal clear thought in your mind, and then someone say the exact thing you just thought. I too find it happens a lot with numbers. I too find it's a definite "moments before the event" event. caubeck wrote: Quote:
though at school I did answer direct questions correctly based on these "impulses." Very interesting. I've had some experiences with what I call "Suddenly and unlogical talking out of my control". Experiences where I actually say the information before it's given by the other person. A few examples: I was 12 years old. A friend called me and yelled: "-Mikael, you have to come here quickly!!!" Upon which I immediately said: "-Why? Is your house full of ants?" He replied: "-Yes..." It turned out the house was invaded by ants when he came home and since he was alone he wanted me to help him. A friend of mine started to experience "Suddenly and unlogical talking out of his control" several years ago. When someone asked him something he did not know the answer to, he was just about to reply that he knew nothing about it, but was interrupted by hearing himself starting to talk and give correct information about the subject. He said it was like hearing someone else talk. At one occasion when I was 12 I started to talk, to my own amazement, and gave the name of a person I had not yet met, and what was going to happen. It all happened as I had predicted a few weeks later, and gave me goose pimples. It would be interesting to know if anyone else here have experienced talking not produced by will, and which turned out to be predictions or correct information. Mikael |
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7th_Son Elite user Australia 437 Posts |
This ability of yours might just be a program bug in the software that runs the universe.
Now that you've raised it publically, the great bearded programmer might fix the bug, and this ability of yours might dissappear. Let us know what happens over the next few days.
"Here's to our wives and girlfriends...may they never meet!" - Groucho Marx
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caubeck Elite user 412 Posts |
Mikael, did you find this started at a particular age? I first noticed it when I was about 12 or 13. It was happening several times a day when I reached 16, but I sort of "ignored it to sleep" after a few years. Now I'm 33 and it just comes and goes, now quite rarely, usually coinciding with happy or creative moods/periods. I toyed with the idea that it could be a mild schizophrenia and bought several books I considered could help me understand it, but it's hard to label it a dysfunction when the message content is factual and precognitive. Whatever it is, it's one of the most bloody useless and frustrating experiences anyone can have.
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Mikael Eriksson Inner circle None of your business 1064 Posts |
I think I had my first strange experience aged 5 or 6, and it consisted in me telling in advance about 10 times in a row what side of the dice would come up. I showed it to a friend and her fater, and he stared silently and in disbelief.
My "second before eperiences" I started to have in adult age. I find it very interesting that you find these moments "usually coinciding with happy moods/periods" - it's just like that for me too. Unlike you I don't find it useless and frustrating, but it actually energizes me Mikael |
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spadesy New user 72 Posts |
You should share your paranormal experience with and audience as a mentalist's presentation act. It does not matter how you are able to perform scientifically, as long as it looks like it.
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caubeck Elite user 412 Posts |
I've had two similar experiences to yours with the dice. Maybe more, just two I can recall off the top of my head. Just silly worthless "guessing" things that just seemed to go on and on.
But anyway, that's all I'm going to write about this topic here. Have a merry Xmas and a peaceful 2005. Chris caubeck@yahoo.com |
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Gordon Special user Chicago 692 Posts |
If you're particularly interested in this topic, and want more than a dry philosophical or clinical text, I heartily recommend the book Cosmic Trigger by Robert Anton Wilson. But be warned, it could change your life.
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Mikael Eriksson Inner circle None of your business 1064 Posts |
CI talked to a friend who has experienced coming to a totally new town, and experienced he recognized it from sometime before. He could then find his way through the town without a map. He is not the only one, I have heard stories like this before.
In cases like this it can hardly be because the brain does not connect at once. How is this explained? Mikael |
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
One rather boring (partial) explanation of this phenomenon is confirmation bias. Positive results have greater resonance for us than do negative results. For example, when reading in a library I often get the feeling that I am being watched. I look around. If someone is looking at me, my intuition gets a very powerful "reward". If I don't see someone looking at me, I do two things. First I look harder to really make sure no one is looking. Then if I find someone looking at me, my intuitions are confirmed again (I don't consider the possibility that my looking about has attracted attention); if I don't find anyone looking, then I go back to what I was doing.
In the end, confirmations register very powerfully, and I have a strong feeling that my intuitions are accurate. I have no doubt that other things are going on here as well. I may be physically cued to someone looking at me without being aware of what is causing the cue. And maybe I really do have some unarticulated "sixth sense." Regardless, I suspect that other instances of "seeing" are frequently cases of confirmation bias. I can often find my way around strange towns because towns have a reasonably similar road structure and my successes are reinforcing, etc. John
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The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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Doug Higley 1942 - 2022 7152 Posts |
Muddy: Yep I have written it down once or twice before she get's in.
Last night was a real doozy...she came home, and as she came in the door I said "Weird night huh?" You got 2 with 3 or 4 in the hamper?" Her jaw dropped and she looked sheepish. I said well? She said "I got 2...long pause..."and there are two that didn't clear yet but probably will by Thursday...and one other one, the persion is to call back with the proper card number and I screwed another one up by hitting the wrong total so I might not get it." I shrugged as if oh well...another hit...hahaha. Facinating thread even if I don't buy it all. There have been some great answers for logical conclusions (but they are on the other page and I can't remember which ones...what am I psychic?) As to coincidences and odds etc...consider this as an example...if the chances are 3 million to one that some certain thing could occur to you...and there are 300 million people...the possibility is, that that 'thing' is occuring to 10 million people. Etc. Fun stuff Doug
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jimtron Inner circle 2039 Posts |
Mikael:
How does this sound, as a way of testing the phenomenon: Have someone say, "I'm thinking of a number. The number is..." and right before they say the number, you call it out aloud. Then write down whether you got a hit or a miss. Maybe it's best if you can't see your helper, to avoid any visual clues. Repeat this many times. The helper could say different kinds of things, like, "Last week I read an interesting article in..." or "I'm thinking of an object, it is...". If you had the time and inclination, you could try this many times with different people. If you get lots of hits, maybe you have psychic power. In my opinion what you describe could be psychic ability, or maybe something that is not supernatural, as others have suggested (some kind of cerebral delay, or lucky guesses, etc.). I don't see any reason why this couldn't be tested, if you were so inclined. |
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redhot New user 4 Posts |
I experience exactly the same thing!! its very strange because for some reason when I get the thought in my head I just get the feelin of absolute certainty, its a nice feeling of knowing for sure that your going to be correct but this is then followed by the feeling of "wait, how did I know that?" and I start to question myself, this is then followed by the answer to whatever it was which I always get correct and then I think "how is that possible??, it must of been coincidence" but it happens quite regulary.
My major experience of this was when my dad asked me what lottery scratch card to buy and I got the image of the scratch card in my head immedietly and I felt the feeling of absolute certainty, I told him the card I was thinking of, he went into the shop (i was outside in the car)he bought the ticket and won £10! However I think under test conditions I would not be able to do it because I would be concentrating on it too much and it only seems to happen when I'm relaxed and unexpecting. |
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r4bid Veteran user 386 Posts |
This phenomena is a common occurence among human beings and can easily be explained by the structure of the brain and the "lag" time it takes for sensory information to propogate through the different parts of your mind. You hear something on a below concious level which causes you to think of it conciously and at the same time the origional sensory information is kicked up to your conciousness. Depending on which one you focus on first you may believe that you thought of the event before it happened. In reality this is just a feature of the human mind and its struggle to process your entire environment without bogging down your concious mind.
In short this happens a lot of the time to a lot of the population. It is completely normal and is completely biological. I am not a neurobiologist but I have studied the brain extensively through university curriculum and research on my own time. |
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Muddy Elite user 449 Posts |
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Muddy: Yep I have written it down once or twice before she get's in. xmosis: Just curious ... is it your contention that this is clairvoyance or telepathy? |
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caubeck Elite user 412 Posts |
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On 2004-12-29 18:51, r4bid wrote: Hi r4bid, Although this doesn't fully describe the experience I have had, as the lag varies from 0.5 to 4 or more seconds in my case, I find the explanation very interesting. It would seem to me, as a researcher of folklore, that if such a phenomenon were extremely common, we would find traces of it throughout the records of human experience. But I've searched for it and it isn't there (unlike, say, deja vu). It is also something that very few people today claim to experience regularly, or have even imagined possible, so I can't help but wonder whether what you're describing fits in with current knowledge of how the brain works but not with our perception of it. Can you tell me where you have read about this phenomenon so I can investigate further? |
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r4bid Veteran user 386 Posts |
Caubeck: This is the same reason that people experience deja vu. Go to a library and check out some psychology textbooks that deal with memory and the mind. Personally I am a fan of Gray's Psychology as an "entry level text" though it can get rather advanced at times. It is used in many universities and high schools to teach first year psychology. I believe it covers this phenomena.
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