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Can anyone provide me with information on sources and different routines to predict the change in a spectator's pocket? Thanks! Smile
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Not strictly predicting the change, but...

Barrie Richardson's Theatre of the Mind has the Trick that fooled Einstein, where you make a claim along the lines of "the amount of change in their pocket is equal to mine plus $1.25", or somesuch.

Osterlind has a nice routine on his Mind Mysteries where he predicts the denomination and year of 3 coins chosen by 3 spectators from their own pockets and the predictions are written on pieces of paper signed by the spectators. Bad description, very good, very doable effect.

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You could use some presentation of The Trick that Fooled Einstein, with them taking coins from their pocket and you taking them from yours. You can find this in Theatre Of The Mind by Barry Richardson, or more recently on Richard Osterlind's Easy To Master Mental Miracles.

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Two ideas come instantly to mind. The first is simply using a swami gimmick. This is a standard effect that has been used for years.

The second is using the change in pocket during a one ahead routine. Any Mental Epic type board can also be used. I use the idea as the third prediction for my Ultra Board although you could just do it alone with that board.

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There is a one ahead routine in Wilsons Complete Course in Magic that predicts change in a specs pocket ... he calls the effect the 3-way test.
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Heheh Kennedy, looks like we were typing at the same time: cue Twilight Zone music.

Of course Richard, I always forget a Swami, I guess its cos I find them so tricky despite your helpful advice on your videos. one day....
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I find it hard to believe that a trick that relies upon elementary school arithmetic could have fooled Einstein.

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On 2004-12-23 10:59, Magnus Eisengrim wrote:
I find it hard to believe that a trick that relies upon elementary school arithmetic could have fooled Einstein.

John


I never actually thought that it really fooled Einstien, it just goes along with the patter that he does.
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"I never actually thought that it really fooled Einstien, it just goes along with the patter that he does."

And its a great routine. Highly recommended. Can also be done impromptu as long as you and your spectators have enough change at hand. I really like the triple aspect to it.

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Loz, great minds...but that's a matter of opinion lol
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Ted Lesley has a nice addition to this plot. It is published in Magick and in Paramiracles.
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I find it hard to believe that a trick that relies upon elementary school arithmetic could have fooled Einstein

It probably didn't, but it relies on a bit more than "elementary" math. It actually relies upon a subtle logical supposition. A false assumption. Done correctly, the spectator never realizes that you are working with both sides of an equation (they may not know an equation exists). They assume all of your actions are "positive" (and they are -- just not in the way they think), and they never consider your ability to nullify their total.
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The "one ahead meathod" would probobly work best, because you can predict at least one extra thing, at the same time.
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Lee Earle's Swami Gimmick teach in has a complete routine for the change in pocket prediction and we use this routine.
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If you want to appear to have predicted the total way in advance, a simple variation on Banachek's Invisible Palmtop would be effective perhaps?

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Can't better recommend the Swami Gimmick for this effect. In Ted Lesley's FISM 1997 Lecture Notes "It's Paramiraculous"....he presents the same effect as an opener but his prediction is off by $0.10 and he frets the entire show over this because his predictions are never wrong. Ultimately, at the finale of the show, he asks the spec to once again check all pockets and the spec finds he forgot an extra dime in another pocket that wasn't previously counted so the prediction actually was correct....take your applause and exit. Just a little something to add for more thought! Enjoy!
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What's a swami gimmick?

Never mind, I'll just do a Google search.

Thanks guys!!!
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On 2004-12-26 12:57, Jim Reynolds wrote:
What's a swami gimmick?

Never mind, I'll just do a Google search.

Thanks guys!!!
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